NYC Mayor Bloomberg: "No Miatas in Manhattan!"
11-01-2012, 12:10 PM
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You like math. Isn't there something like 15 million that use the subway every day? Find out what kind of square footage those 15 million take up vs. carpooling 3 to a car.
This is kinda the reason carpool lanes are for 2 or more, instead of 3 or more. It would eliminate all the 2 seaters, but that's for environmental reasons.
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11-01-2012, 12:40 PM
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Hehe.
Yeah, I totally understand the reasons for the restriction. I've spent a fair amount of time working there, and even under the best of circumstances, traffic into and out of the bridges and tunnels is a total clusterfuck during rush hour. Without the PATH and LIRR trains running, (to say nothing of the Brooklyn MTA crossings or the Staten Island ferry) I can't even begin to imagine the scene.
I just figured I'd try to play the role of JasonC for a change, and make a big, over-inflated stink about something that's actually quite rational, painting it as baseless and discriminatory instead of fair and reasonable.
Yeah, I totally understand the reasons for the restriction. I've spent a fair amount of time working there, and even under the best of circumstances, traffic into and out of the bridges and tunnels is a total clusterfuck during rush hour. Without the PATH and LIRR trains running, (to say nothing of the Brooklyn MTA crossings or the Staten Island ferry) I can't even begin to imagine the scene.
I just figured I'd try to play the role of JasonC for a change, and make a big, over-inflated stink about something that's actually quite rational, painting it as baseless and discriminatory instead of fair and reasonable.
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11-01-2012, 01:12 PM
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Cherry-picking facts for fun and profit. 
In all seriousness, it's pretty hosed down there. Here is today's subway map:
See all the lines that are shaded out? Those are the ones which service the parts of Manhattan where most of the major office buildings are, along with pretty much everything else that people actually need to get to. And those are just the subway lines. Folks who live in the outer regions come in via PATH (trains running from Jersey) LIRR (the Long Island Railroad), or Metro north, and most of those lines are down as well. PATH will be totally offline for at least a week, LIRR is up with only one line into Penn Station, and Metro North has limited service into Grand Central.
Of course, even for those folks who do manage to get into Penn Station or Grand Central, the subway lines which they normally transfer to in order go get downtown are offline.
So it pretty much sucks right now.
We finally got through via phone to the folks at CBS, which are located on Hudson at Houston. They've basically just been living at the radio station since Monday, barely getting by and feeling REALLY good about the fact that they spent a gajillion dollars on the second-largest UPS I have ever seen in my life. (Their generator is in the basement, and it is, of course, flooded.) They're in better shape than the Clear Channel folks- their building is completely dead.
In all seriousness, it's pretty hosed down there. Here is today's subway map:
See all the lines that are shaded out? Those are the ones which service the parts of Manhattan where most of the major office buildings are, along with pretty much everything else that people actually need to get to. And those are just the subway lines. Folks who live in the outer regions come in via PATH (trains running from Jersey) LIRR (the Long Island Railroad), or Metro north, and most of those lines are down as well. PATH will be totally offline for at least a week, LIRR is up with only one line into Penn Station, and Metro North has limited service into Grand Central.
Of course, even for those folks who do manage to get into Penn Station or Grand Central, the subway lines which they normally transfer to in order go get downtown are offline.
So it pretty much sucks right now.
We finally got through via phone to the folks at CBS, which are located on Hudson at Houston. They've basically just been living at the radio station since Monday, barely getting by and feeling REALLY good about the fact that they spent a gajillion dollars on the second-largest UPS I have ever seen in my life. (Their generator is in the basement, and it is, of course, flooded.) They're in better shape than the Clear Channel folks- their building is completely dead.
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11-01-2012, 02:07 PM
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ROFL:
Driving restrictions into Manhattan lead to gridlock - New York News | NYC Breaking News
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Driving restrictions into Manhattan lead to gridlock - New York News | NYC Breaking News
Police are stopping to check cars at the Brooklyn Bridge, Manhattan Bridge, Williamsburg Bridge, Queensboro Bridge, RFK/Triborough Bridge, Henry Hudson Bridge, and Lincoln Tunnel to determine how many people are inside before they are allowed into the bridges or tunnel.
The check points reduced traffic to one lane. The inspections appeared to be taking several seconds per vehicle.
The check points reduced traffic to one lane. The inspections appeared to be taking several seconds per vehicle.
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The "government" at work. Obama said, "we are going to remove obstacles". Government workers heard, "we are going to impose obstacles", shows how powerful we are.
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11-01-2012, 09:42 PM
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Yes.
For those unfamiliar with NYC, remember that Manhattan is literally an island. The only ways to get in or out are by bridge, by tunnel under the river, or by ferry.
The problem is that most of the rail systems in the area are offline due to tunnel flooding, damaged track, etc. Likewise, the Staten Island Ferry is also shut down.
A great many of the people who work in Manhattan live in Jersey, the outer boroughs, Long Island, etc. They commute in and out every day, mostly by train.
Even on the best of days, traffic in Manhattan is heavy, to put it very mildly. You think LA or Chicago has traffic? HA! On normal day it can take an hour to go a mile during rush hour (eg: getting into the Holland Tunnel.)
Now, you have literally millions of people who normally come in via train or ferry, who now have no choice but to drive into the city, and because they don't usually commute by car, they don't have reserved parking spots at a garage in the city.
The island simply isn't big enough for all those cars. Thus, until the public transit systems are back online, they've had to enforce mandatory high-density carpooling as a means of keeping the number of additional cars in the city to a minimum, or else Manhattan would simply be completely gridlocked and set a new world record for the largest traffic jam in the history of mankind. Even as it is, a lot of folks who work in the city have decided to simply stay there for the duration, sleeping in their offices rather than facing 4-5 hour commutes by road.
For those unfamiliar with NYC, remember that Manhattan is literally an island. The only ways to get in or out are by bridge, by tunnel under the river, or by ferry.
The problem is that most of the rail systems in the area are offline due to tunnel flooding, damaged track, etc. Likewise, the Staten Island Ferry is also shut down.
A great many of the people who work in Manhattan live in Jersey, the outer boroughs, Long Island, etc. They commute in and out every day, mostly by train.
Even on the best of days, traffic in Manhattan is heavy, to put it very mildly. You think LA or Chicago has traffic? HA! On normal day it can take an hour to go a mile during rush hour (eg: getting into the Holland Tunnel.)
Now, you have literally millions of people who normally come in via train or ferry, who now have no choice but to drive into the city, and because they don't usually commute by car, they don't have reserved parking spots at a garage in the city.
The island simply isn't big enough for all those cars. Thus, until the public transit systems are back online, they've had to enforce mandatory high-density carpooling as a means of keeping the number of additional cars in the city to a minimum, or else Manhattan would simply be completely gridlocked and set a new world record for the largest traffic jam in the history of mankind. Even as it is, a lot of folks who work in the city have decided to simply stay there for the duration, sleeping in their offices rather than facing 4-5 hour commutes by road.
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11-01-2012, 09:51 PM
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Nah, you know the city. Saturday will be fine. The GW is open on both decks, and MTA up in that neck of the woods is running almost normally. The 3, B and C are suspended, but 1, 2, A and D are operating normally all the way down to 34th. (The A isn't running north of 168th- not sure why.)
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11-01-2012, 10:02 PM
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Inwood? WTF are you doing out there?
They do have several more LIRR routes that are supposed to come back online with hourly service starting tomorrow, but Far Rockaway ain't one of 'em.
They do have several more LIRR routes that are supposed to come back online with hourly service starting tomorrow, but Far Rockaway ain't one of 'em.
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11-01-2012, 10:52 PM
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bleh.
You know, for being the two major options for getting from midtown to the Airtrain, no two lines could be more dis-similar than A and E.
The E train is ******* fabulous. New, clean, quiet... You'd think you were in Singapore.
The A train somehow manages to capture everything that is bad, wrong and evil about mass-transit. Filthy, run-down, loud, slow... You'd think you were in NYC. In the 70s.
You know, for being the two major options for getting from midtown to the Airtrain, no two lines could be more dis-similar than A and E.
The E train is ******* fabulous. New, clean, quiet... You'd think you were in Singapore.
The A train somehow manages to capture everything that is bad, wrong and evil about mass-transit. Filthy, run-down, loud, slow... You'd think you were in NYC. In the 70s.
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