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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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A ---- or not a ----, that is the question.




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Originally Posted by levnubhin
Meh that could work but again were getting away from responsibilities here. When did the government, teachers, schools become responsible for our kids? If my teenage daughter gets pregnant or my teenage son get a girl pregnant IT'S MY FAMILIES PROBLEM. Not yours, not the government and not the schools and teachers. When are parents gonna be held responsible for what their under age kids are doing?

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When are parents gonna be held responsible for what their under age kids are doing?
This is more of an arguement about how hilarious and hypocritical it is that Palin; the queen of the religious right, has a preggo daughter.

It goes to show how well those abstinence only parenting and teaching works.
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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And lets not go into how hilariously disqualified she is for the job.

A communications/journalism degree from the University of Idaho..

Mayor of a town in Alaska with fewer people than I've fucked

Governor of Alaska, really? I dont care if she had 100 years of experience, let alone 2. Alaska?

hmmph
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Weather it works or not isnt the issue. Yes it obviously failed in her case. My argument is who is now responsidle for said baby? The Government or the family? I couldnt care less who is have habies and how old they are. Have all the babies you want. Just dont take my money away from me and my family to now support them.
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And lets not go into how hilariously disqualified she is for the job.

A communications/journalism degree from the University of Idaho..

Mayor of a town in Alaska with fewer people than I've fucked

Governor of Alaska, really? I dont care if she had 100 years of experience, let alone 2. Alaska?

hmmph

I hope you feel the same way about Obama.
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
I hope you feel the same way about Obama.

my thoughts exactly. ------ please....can't even get DMX to support you.
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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And he's running for President, 1st in command. Not VICE President.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
my thoughts exactly. ------ please....can't even get DMX to support you.

Senator Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

Education:
JD, Harvard Law School, 1991
BA, Columbia University, 1983
Attended, Occidental College.


Professional Experience:
Attorney
Lecturer.

Political Experience:
Senator, United States Senate, 2005-present
Keynote Speaker, 2004 Democratic National Convention
Senator, Illinois State Senate, 1996-2004.

He's already got 100k ups on Palin.

Not saying hes my ideal candidate at all. In fact I don't consider myself a economic liberal at all. But at least he went to the number 1 school in the US and is extremely well educated and well spoken and one of the best figureheads I could imagine at the helm. Palin on the other hand has barely been governor yet, went to a tier 3 school, with a degree that has little or nothing to do with politics and has little experience with anything.

My arguement for Obama has always been one of "I don't agree with his politics, but as far as the politics of 'what we look like on the world stage' go, hes the best one for the office".
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
And he's running for President, 1st in command. Not VICE President.
VP is an extremely important role. President of the Senate, next in line incase McCain has his 3rd bout of Melinoma.
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I dont see any Executive experience there. In fact neither of the 2 in the Democratic party have any executive experience. Im not sayin Palin or McCain is any better, but your argument over experience is very weak.
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Neither of the candidates are worth a damn. In my opinion we never will have a worthy president in office because the people that could run it properly won't run because they don't want their family drug through the mud like Palin's is right now....Colin Powell for example would be one of the best presidents the country has ever seen.
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Originally Posted by KPLAFIN
Neither of the candidates are worth a damn. In my opinion we never will have a worthy president in office because the people that could run it properly won't run because they don't want their family drug through the mud like Palin's is right now....Colin Powell for example would be one of the best presidents the country has ever seen.

I think that sums it up. Either way were screwed in one way or another.
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yep. they are all a gimmick and a joke. hell if obama really wanted to win, he should have picked mccain as a running mate.
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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I don't give a crap about this topic in THIS thread either. This is NOT news!!!!!!
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6 of one, half a dozen of the other..
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I mean if you really wanna do the point for point thing:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/...inexperienced/
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
I mean if you really wanna do the point for point thing:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/...inexperienced/
Because thats not a biased analysis at allll

edit: after reading through that, it appears that website is the largest collection of neo-con trash i've ever seen.

edit: and before you kids go and bash me and call me a liberal, understand i'm not at all. In fact I am just fervently anti-war and anti-neo conservative.

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Chosen in desperation.

Read this before it goes subscription only:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us...etting.html?hp
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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LOL.. "A ---- or not a ----, that is the question."

Great way to start a political debate.
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Personally, I could not be more thrilled with Palin. I think that'll blow up nicely in McCain's face. I'm NOT voting for Obama either, only because in my state he'll get the votes anyway so I'd rather vote for someone I believe in. Obama is not liberal enough for me. That's right I said it. Still I'd rather him than the other possibility.



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