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Old 12-01-2009, 04:59 AM   #1
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So me and a couple guys from school are complete slackers. Just look at what we do with with our awesome long weekends.

We decided we should completely destroy a nice 1989 S5 Mazda RX-7 turboII motor, and make it into pretty 3d shapes!

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We're not done yet, should take us another week to get everything together and dimensioned and joined up right. If I did the rotor and seals right compared to Dave's incredibad rotor housings, we should be able to get it to rotate in Pro-E. How fun.

Anyone in for uuber awesome exploded view when we are done?
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screw Pro-E

Solid works rules.

Now inport it into Ansys and do some FEM you SLACKER
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Good job, looks like a fun idea to me!
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screw Pro-E

Solid works rules.

Now inport it into Ansys and do some FEM you SLACKER
PRO-E probably isn't the best, but I find that a lot of smaller companies use it.
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PRO-E probably isn't the best, but I find that a lot of smaller companies use it.
Pro-E/Wildfire is what the school uses, no choice in the matter. You can convert from Solid works and back again as far as the langauge goes, its difficult but a few guys in our class know how to use it.

For a heads up, you can get both Pro-E and Solidworks for free if your a student, google "Solidworks/pro-engineer free school edition"

Pro-E vs solidworks, I do like solidworks a bit better, Pro-E has the stupidest intent manager on the ******* planet, it always wants to mount bearings/seals and such in the most ridiculous ways, when its way obvious the two pieces are made the exact same. Solid works is a bit better at "getting it"


As far as "smaller" companies using one vs. the other, I don't see the corolation. CAT and a lot of others use Pro-E around here, but Imation used Solidworks in Cali, however, even a small company like Zpower uses Solidworks as well.

No Ansys :-D

We are going to finish all the plates today hopefully,and slap it together. Then blow it up.
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Werd, Pro-E is badass with mechanical FEA (it's what I learned on), but damn, Solid/Flow works is so much easier with the fluids (graduate work). As for which one is "better" for making stuff and putting it together, I've been hit or miss with both of them ... I just know how to fix Pro-E stuff faster =P

Good work and can't wait to see the final exploded view!
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Good work and can't wait to see the final exploded view!
This. Sick ****.
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Damn I had to do a camera mount with a ball pivot joint for class when I learned Pro/E, and I thought that sucked! Engine looks great.

Pro/E is indeed NOT used by a huge amount of companies, although those who do use it usually have a reason. They say once you know Pro/E everything else is easy to use in comparison and easy to learn.

Solidworks is fun but FEM is meh, and it's a real basic program, like the "CAD/CAM for dummies" of CAD/CAM programs.

Catia is where it's at, Boeing and a number of other big companies use it, FEM is unparalleled and it's much easier to use than Pro/E. I fraking love it after learning both the others. Pro/E feels very windows 3.0, Solidworks feels very annoying-paper-clip-guy-in-Microsoft-Word, and Catia feels very Windows XPish. Has a few bugs as any software has, but it's easy and comfortable to use and becomes second nature quickly.
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Awesome project, what are you using to measure everything?
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Awesome project, what are you using to measure everything?
a few sets of calipers.

We only took a couple of major measurements, we actually used the actual formulas after we realized that was the best way to make the rotor/housing fit properly. i added seals to snug it up.

The formula is pretty ridiculous. If you go back and modify the rotor or housings base features, it takes a good half minute to regenerate everything. Its pretty bitchin'
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so no motor was actually taken apart?
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so no motor was actually taken apart?
... yes, I'm using calipers on thin air to take measurements

But, seriously, yes we took apart a 1989 S5 turboII

its sitting in my garage, whats left, anyway.

We all have different parts, but we are helping each other out where we can. I am the only one that has done assemblies yet, so those last few are mine. But i helped with the Shaft and with a rotor housing, and I built the rotor, the seals, bearings, and a few other pieces.

Its a team effort, and everyone's putting in 20+ hours easy on this project.
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