range rover runs over bikers
 

Here's an article with some actual info.

Dad Driving With Family in NYC Beaten by Bikers: Police | NBC New York

Doing stunts on the street is stupid, but getting close enough to accidentally hit a group of bikers doing stunts on the street is monumentally retarded, and I hope he is charged with reckless driving and a couple of counts of assault with a deadly weapon.

This is pure insanity man. You see this youtube user? He has uploaded hundreds of videos EXACTLY like this when them going nuts, running lights, and assaulting people. This is pure anarchy, and frankly it's quite scary. I'm an avid motorcyclist too.

Dude, even as a motorcyclist I disagree with you here. The guy got "brake checked" by that sport bike, bumped him and didn't take him down, and even pulled over after. Then they swarmed and started assaulting his car, so he was in the right to protect himself and his family from the immediate danger of an unruly motorcycle mob.

This. You wanna play that brake-check thing, sometimes you get tagged. Dude appears to have just been driving on the same road as this pack of tools, wrong place, wrong time. I'd have hit them too.

I didn't realize Jason condones gang violence.

Why are you driving close enough to 100+ bikers doing stupid shit to get brake checked? I was saying that I would stay 100ft back.

And you're never "in the right" when you run people down in your car.

I'm not saying the bikers weren't at fault too, of course they are.

Because you were just driving along when a mob of 100+ bikers surrounded you, then wouldn't let you change lanes because they were splitting lanes and otherwise acting like assholes?

There have been commentors on other sites that all said the same thing: they saw this same group of riders and they were acting like thugs and lunatics, running red lights, splitting lanes, trying to intimidate drivers, etc. One guy said he saw a rider go up on a sidewalk in order to run a red light to stay with the gang.

I don't know in what sense you are using "in the right," but there are a number of situations in which you absolutely are both morally and legally justified in running someone down with your car or truck.

Did you even watch the video(s)? These bikers swarm EVERYTHING in their paths, the guy with his family in that Range Rover were just one of their victims. Go to that youtube video I linked and look through that users dozens of videos. They do this all the time, and there are MANY other assaults on random cars in the process.

I don't think the guy was at fault at all. If you genuinely fear for you and your families lives you can defend yourself with a deadly weapon (in this case, an SUV). I would have done the same thing, except I also would have been carrying as a last case scenario (read: if they come to rip me out of my car at a stoplight and beat me to death in front of my family).

Sure you are, presupposing that they are swarming your vehicle with your family inside with the apparent intent of causing great harm to you and your children.

I say this as a motorcyclist and bicyclist.

Holy shit!!! If somebody punched my car window like that, they can bet their ass I'd be stepping out of my car and they better have some sort of weapon in their hand when I do, cause their face is about to get kicked in.

I know how you bicyclist gangs roll. Thug lyfe.

And then you'd be getting the life stomped out of you by a mob.

I am glad I am not your wife or child :D

Stay 100ft back? Did you not see how many there were? They were like a swarm. The only way to stay that far back would most likely be to stop completely til they all went by, which well, isn't safe.

And if a bunch of assholes are intent on harming me and/or my family, I would do the same. And to disagree with you even more, "run people down" is poor phrasing. He wasn't chasing anyone. He was trying to get himself and his family away from a group of thugs, which were intentionally putting themselves IN HIS WAY.

Your statement of "you're never in the right.... " reminds me of this:

The driver, Alexian Lian (33) has been cleared of all wrongdoing in this case. As far as the police are concerned, the motorcyclists assaulted the him, riding dangerously and illegally, many of them without license plates. The guy in jeans intentionally caused an accident, and the mob attacked Alexian's car when he stopped, causing him to fear for his life and flee in self-defense to protect himself, his wife, and two-year old daughter. The SUV occupants were actually on the phone with police during much of this incident.

The motorcycle gang then proceeded to chase down the fleeing family. Their SUV was forced off the highway with flat tires, and got stuck in traffic. Before police could arrive, the bikers smashed through Alexian's window and attacked him with a knife, slashing his face and chest several times, before fleeing the scene. Police are currently tracking down the cyclists and several arrests have been made. Witnesses followed some of the bikers to a gas station and police are trying to use the video from the gas station and social media to track down those responsible that have not already been arrested.

At least I can count on MT.net not being fucking retarded regarding this. Well minus one person who obviously has no clue.

So many dumb posts regarding this on FB and social media. Mostly by ignorant fucks who want to do whatever whenever, with out consequences.

Now personally I feel that SUV driver really did well not just doing donuts all over every one of these motorcyclists. It would have taken a lot of will power to not just aim for them and pick them off one at a time.

I can't imagine the driver didn't have a phone (I didn't read any articles maybe this is explained) but I would have definitely called the police, especially if I had to plow through a bunch of dumb dumbs, then stay on the highway until the police pulled me over.

Huh?

At first I was on the bikers side until I read the story and saw some of the other videos and read the story attached. The guy is completely in the clear in my eyes, but still an idiot. Why would you risk an incident with THAT many people by hitting one of them. They guy on the bike did brake check, but it certainly wasn't so far he couldn't have slowed and avoid hitting him. So for that he is either really stupid to risk a major ass beating and danger to his family, or really unlucky that he wasn't paying attention at that crucial second.

I dont think I couldnt have run them over.

I probably would have run over every one that slowed in front of me at all.

Just creamed them.

Honestly, what else is there to do?

Dann

Slow down and not run them over, and let them go on their merry, road terrorizing way to mess with someone else and not you or your family. At least that seems pretty logical to me.....

Besides, the video and story doesn't tell what happened before the camera started rolling. Right from the get go it looks like the bikes have turned their attention to this guy for some reason. He may have already achieved other feats of asshattery.

So they are surrounding you, hitting your car, attempting to stop you, and you just comply and stop, let them open your doors and stomp you and your family to death?

Dann

Did you watch the video? The first violent action taken was the Rover hitting the guy on the white bike. Before the video shows nothing but the guy on the white bike looking at the driver, then pulling in front of him and slowing down. I'm sorry, but that isn't cause for running people down.

At the point of them surrounding the car and trying to get in and get you out, then yeah, I can see running them down. But my point is that it shouldn't have gotten that far. The guy shouldn't have made the initial hit on the white bike.

That video doesnt show him getting slashed up in the face with knives at the end, nor does it show anything before him hitting the bike.

In other words, given the behaviour of the bikers in other videos, Im going to assume they behaved the same way.

Dann

Which is exactly what I said. We don't know the whole story. BUT, seeing what we do see in the video, the guy in the Rover made the first bad move by hitting the guy on the bike who brake checked him. Had he slowed down and let them continue on by, things may have gone differently.

The first violent move was not hitting the brake-checking cyclist, the first violent move was brake-checking the swarmed and unnerved motorist who very well could have been checking mirrors to see just how far back this unruly gang went, or trying to tell his child in the backseat "we'll be okay".

Honestly, the only mistakes the driver of the SUV made was getting off of the freeway and not having a glock under his seat for immediate use when his drivers side window was getting smashed in.

Since you didn't add any commentary to you post, it seemed like you were posting this with the mindset of the link you gave: where the suv driver was in the wrong and you were happy to see gang members use violence against him.

Twice I've been at a bike week in my car and I can tell you it's really not fun driving around so many cycles. They ride in your lane, swere in and out of traffic, ride your bumper and it's hard to tell when they are stopping. I've seen plenty of close calls.

Here's a clip from a rider from this year's event:


Fortunately they are a peaceful group of mostly rich lawyers and doctors on overpriced harleys and not a gang of thugs. But as you can see the street is full of bikes and it's really unpleasant to drive around; let alone the noise pollution, omfg.

did YOU watch the video?! You really need to look up the definition of violent, take good long look in the mirror, then punch yourself.

Pretty much this...


People would be dead if this happened around here.

Fortunately, people around here aren't stupid enough to start shit with people weather it's a tiny asian in a range rover or a bunch of nutcase bike riders.

whether.

Braineack- how long have you known Jason? When he posts a seemingly random link to external commentary, we are supposed to understand that the video / article which the link leads to explains how whatever is being discussed is the fault of the Federal Reserve bank, regardless of trivial BS like facts and truth.

Homophones i think. English failed me.

Detroit failed you.

New terrain setting on Range Rovers

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1380631849

Same here in Jacksonville, where it's fairly common for people to carry. I had an incident last week in the Lotus on an on-ramp that was being necked down to one lane because of construction. I genuinely just merged, did nothing overtly wrong (like, signaled, slowly changed lanes, no stupid shit) but somehow set the guy in the Suburban now behind me OFF. For the next five minutes the dude laid on his horn (constantly), kept his high beams on (8 AM?), aggressively tailgated and raged at me through his windshield, and me and my .380 just sat and laughed at him. He was genuinely Out Of Control, and yet didn't get out and approach my car (we were in stop and go traffic), which I have to think may have something to do with the prevalence of CCP's down here. Had he approached my car and attacked me I'd have dropped him in a second; the guy was unhinged.

Back on topic though, I really feel for the Range Rover dude and his family. Think about their experience; you're out on a beautiful day just doing Your Thing, suddenly you're swarmed by hundreds of completely lawless animals who have come to town specifically to be lawless animals, they harass and menace you, going so far as to force you to stop and attacking you and your family, you flee but are chased down and beaten in the street like a dog.

We do live in savage times.

The "brake check" the guy on the bike did was not what I would consider a violent action. It wasn't even a real brake check. Yeah, his lights came on, but it looked more like slowing in gear off throttle. The guy in the SUV had plenty of reaction time, IF, like I already said, if you read it, the guy was actually paying attention to the road. He chose the hit the bike (again, if he saw it) which started the whole situation which led to window smashing and an ass kicking. I'm not sticking up for the bikers, just saying it was a stupid move on the guys part to hit the bike which if he was paying attention to, could have easily avoided hitting.

oh i didnt realzie you were in the car with the guy and dicussed how you were going to run over bikers. my bad.

Fuck off Jesse.

There, I said it.

A group of people (100+) on unmarked bikes with no plates swarm around the car and try to slow it.

I'm hitting those guys every time.

Fuck being one of your children.

Dann

LOL. Yeah, I don't get your side of the argument Jesse.

Bikers created the situation, and escalated the situation.

Yes. Better to die a victim than fight back. Hopefully your wife and daughters aren't raped much before they are killed as well. At least you can die knowing you never resorted to violence.

The bike brake-checked the SUV on a 6-lane highway. Don't be a dumb ------ on this forum or I'll ban you for "homosexual thought".

Yep, the bikers were in the wrong 100%. Don't understand the other side of the argument at all

A swarm of wasps decides to fly in front of my car. Since the wasps are dumb and also feel that traffic laws don't apply to them, they think they're superior to my range rover "which is in their way" so one of them decides to be ignorant and slow down faster than necessary, I end up bumping into him. Yes I'm pissed off because of their ignorance. Suddenly, the wasp with the broken stinger releases pheromones that make the other wasps attack.
What do I do? Drive away wrecklessly and let the wasps chase me until they get in my car and sting me?
Fuck that.
I'm at the next light with a spray can and a lighter burning their wings off as they fly towards me.

Oh my god you people. I'm not on the bikers side or defending them at all. Like I'v already said, I would have no problem mowing down those guys in that situation, BUT, BUT... I think the outcome could have been non violent for the driver of the SUV had he not hit the bike that brake checked him. Yes on a 6 lane highway, while they were rolling maybe 20 mph, woo, what a deadly threat. The guy could have just slowed and not hit the bike, and possibly avoided an ass beating.

I'm not seeing why you people think the SUV was a victim of something before he hit the bike. From the beginning of the video, it looks to me like he was just an SUV in the middle of a pack of bikes. I didn't see any real threatening behavior besides the brake check, which may have been retribution for something that the guy in the SUV did before the camera started rolling. Even though he was brake checked, I think it was a bad call to hit the guy. I know if I was the driver with my wife and baby in the car and some guy in that pack of bikes brake checked me, I would have enough sense to avoid hitting him (which looked easy to do to me, maybe I"m just awesome like that, since none of you seem to think so) which would no doubt lead to escalate the situation in the way that it so happened to unfold.

I think everybody is just misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Again, not on the side of the bikers at all, just saying it could have been handled by the driver in a better way from the way I see it. A better way that would have avoided what happened in the video.

I agree with that, if it had to come to that. But, again, I don't think it had to come to that.

I agree with you. There was no prequel to the video, so we don't know the entire story. I also try to avoid confrontation.

Bikers terrorize family in high-speed chase | New York Post

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For those that haven't watched the primary video, pay attention to the opening seconds and note that there are bikes all around the Range Rover. The guy that brake-checked the driver is seen in the lane next to the truck, apparently jawing and threatening him, before deciding to "teach him a lesson" with the brake-check.

That driver literally had dozens of things to try and keep his eyes and attention on at the moment he ended up bumping the rear tire of that biker, all while probably hopped up on adrenaline because of the very real fear of being surrounded by a menacing pack of people displaying lawless behavior. It would be like taking a wrong exit off the highway and finding yourself trying to drive through one of those insane street parties where the people attack cars. What's to say that, if the driver had slammed on his brakes and avoided the rider in front, a rider in the back wouldn't have hit him or been forced to dump his bike? And would that rider not interpret that as the driver brake-checking him?


The reason he exited the highway was because his tires, which were slashed by the bikers, went completely flat.

Go watch the other videos of these bikers. This didn't happen randomly. They generally make asshats of themselves on public roads, doing stupid, dangerous things, intimidating drivers, obstructing traffic, etc.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1380638734

Defending the motorcyclists in any way is ridiculous. They stopped on a major highway, blocking all lanes and got off their bikes to have a confrontation with the guy in the Range Rover. How anyone can try to justify that in their mind is beyond me.

I can't believe this thread hasn't had 1 slight racial comment added it to yet.
Just sayin.
The gang didnt exactly look like the hell's angels.

One of the bikers has been arrested.... watched it on Fox a minute ago

Ain't nobody got time fo dat!

Speaking of them, at least hells angels dont go around assaulting regular people and posting their videos on youtube. They only seem to bother other people like themselves as far as I know.

Welcome to dutch law :dealwithit:

And australian law.

But Im still going to kill as many hoods as it takes to have them stop following me.

Dann

they are too busy killing themselves:

Escaped Hells Angel kills himself as Quebec police close in | Toronto Star

I blame Obama for this

It would of been MUCH messier if I was in the SUV and these idiots were surrounding me and my family. I would of started side swiping them as they swarmed my car chasing me down the interstate. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight and you don't try to intimidate a vehicle 3x your size.

I'm really surprised he let them do all that to him and his car. I mean just stop in a big ol parking lot, then play pool with those retards. that rover only weighs like 8k lb.....its really not that easy to break a window in a moving car that can potentially run you over

This. Is. Retarded.

Seriously friend, just stop. You're basically saying that the SUV guy is responsible for everything that happened because he fled what was likely an on-going and escalating attack. The bikes are going maybe 20 mph at the onset of the video, clearly the pack had slowed to fuck with the guy and had certainly been tormenting him for some time.

Your "blame the victim for not escaping" mentality is truly odd. If your wife gets raped will you blame her for not running away in the proper way??

Please, Jesse, take this advice with in the spirit of kindness with which it's intended and just stop. K? Whatever you're trying to say, it's not coming out right. I mean, do you genuinely believe that the SUV dude took his wife and baby out to go fuck with and provoke an enormous pack of outlaw bikers???

I see what you are trying to reason, Jesse, but I'm guessing Mr. Rover was forced to either bump the bike in front of him or brake check the two bikes extremely close behind him. I'd rather bump one guy that deserves it more than two that don't as much.