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Old 09-30-2013, 05:07 PM   #1
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Here's an article with some actual info.

Dad Driving With Family in NYC Beaten by Bikers: Police | NBC New York

Doing stunts on the street is stupid, but getting close enough to accidentally hit a group of bikers doing stunts on the street is monumentally retarded, and I hope he is charged with reckless driving and a couple of counts of assault with a deadly weapon.
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This is pure insanity man. You see this youtube user? He has uploaded hundreds of videos EXACTLY like this when them going nuts, running lights, and assaulting people. This is pure anarchy, and frankly it's quite scary. I'm an avid motorcyclist too.

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Here's an article with some actual info.

Dad Driving With Family in NYC Beaten by Bikers: Police | NBC New York

Doing stunts on the street is stupid, but getting close enough to accidentally hit a group of bikers doing stunts on the street is monumentally retarded, and I hope he is charged with reckless driving and a couple of counts of assault with a deadly weapon.
Dude, even as a motorcyclist I disagree with you here. The guy got "brake checked" by that sport bike, bumped him and didn't take him down, and even pulled over after. Then they swarmed and started assaulting his car, so he was in the right to protect himself and his family from the immediate danger of an unruly motorcycle mob.
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Dude, even as a motorcyclist I disagree with you here. The guy got "brake checked" by that sport bike, bumped him and didn't take him down, and even pulled over after. Then they swarmed and started assaulting his car, so he was in the right to protect himself and his family from the immediate danger of an unruly motorcycle mob.

This. You wanna play that brake-check thing, sometimes you get tagged. Dude appears to have just been driving on the same road as this pack of tools, wrong place, wrong time. I'd have hit them too.
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I didn't realize Jason condones gang violence.
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Dude, even as a motorcyclist I disagree with you here. The guy got "brake checked" by that sport bike, bumped him and didn't take him down, and even pulled over after. Then they swarmed and started assaulting his car, so he was in the right to protect himself and his family from the immediate danger of an unruly motorcycle mob.
Why are you driving close enough to 100+ bikers doing stupid **** to get brake checked? I was saying that I would stay 100ft back.

And you're never "in the right" when you run people down in your car.

I'm not saying the bikers weren't at fault too, of course they are.
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Why are you driving close enough to 100+ bikers doing stupid **** to get brake checked? I was saying that I would stay 100ft back.
Because you were just driving along when a mob of 100+ bikers surrounded you, then wouldn't let you change lanes because they were splitting lanes and otherwise acting like ********?

There have been commentors on other sites that all said the same thing: they saw this same group of riders and they were acting like thugs and lunatics, running red lights, splitting lanes, trying to intimidate drivers, etc. One guy said he saw a rider go up on a sidewalk in order to run a red light to stay with the gang.

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And you're never "in the right" when you run people down in your car.
I don't know in what sense you are using "in the right," but there are a number of situations in which you absolutely are both morally and legally justified in running someone down with your car or truck.
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Why are you driving close enough to 100+ bikers doing stupid **** to get brake checked? I was saying that I would stay 100ft back.

And you're never "in the right" when you run people down in your car.

I'm not saying the bikers weren't at fault too, of course they are.
Did you even watch the video(s)? These bikers swarm EVERYTHING in their paths, the guy with his family in that Range Rover were just one of their victims. Go to that youtube video I linked and look through that users dozens of videos. They do this all the time, and there are MANY other assaults on random cars in the process.

I don't think the guy was at fault at all. If you genuinely fear for you and your families lives you can defend yourself with a deadly weapon (in this case, an SUV). I would have done the same thing, except I also would have been carrying as a last case scenario (read: if they come to rip me out of my car at a stoplight and beat me to death in front of my family).

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And you're never "in the right" when you run people down in your car.
Sure you are, presupposing that they are swarming your vehicle with your family inside with the apparent intent of causing great harm to you and your children.

I say this as a motorcyclist and bicyclist.
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This is pure insanity man. You see this youtube user? He has uploaded hundreds of videos EXACTLY like this when them going nuts, running lights, and assaulting people. This is pure anarchy, and frankly it's quite scary. I'm an avid motorcyclist too.

Holy ****!!! If somebody punched my car window like that, they can bet their *** I'd be stepping out of my car and they better have some sort of weapon in their hand when I do, cause their face is about to get kicked in.
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I say this as a motorcyclist and bicyclist.
I know how you bicyclist gangs roll. Thug lyfe.

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Holy ****!!! If somebody punched my car window like that, they can bet their *** I'd be stepping out of my car and they better have some sort of weapon in their hand when I do, cause their face is about to get kicked in.
And then you'd be getting the life stomped out of you by a mob.
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Why are you driving close enough to 100+ bikers doing stupid **** to get brake checked? I was saying that I would stay 100ft back.

And you're never "in the right" when you run people down in your car.

I'm not saying the bikers weren't at fault too, of course they are.
I am glad I am not your wife or child

Stay 100ft back? Did you not see how many there were? They were like a swarm. The only way to stay that far back would most likely be to stop completely til they all went by, which well, isn't safe.

And if a bunch of ******** are intent on harming me and/or my family, I would do the same. And to disagree with you even more, "run people down" is poor phrasing. He wasn't chasing anyone. He was trying to get himself and his family away from a group of thugs, which were intentionally putting themselves IN HIS WAY.

Your statement of "you're never in the right.... " reminds me of this:

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The driver, Alexian Lian (33) has been cleared of all wrongdoing in this case. As far as the police are concerned, the motorcyclists assaulted the him, riding dangerously and illegally, many of them without license plates. The guy in jeans intentionally caused an accident, and the mob attacked Alexian's car when he stopped, causing him to fear for his life and flee in self-defense to protect himself, his wife, and two-year old daughter. The SUV occupants were actually on the phone with police during much of this incident.

The motorcycle gang then proceeded to chase down the fleeing family. Their SUV was forced off the highway with flat tires, and got stuck in traffic. Before police could arrive, the bikers smashed through Alexian's window and attacked him with a knife, slashing his face and chest several times, before fleeing the scene. Police are currently tracking down the cyclists and several arrests have been made. Witnesses followed some of the bikers to a gas station and police are trying to use the video from the gas station and social media to track down those responsible that have not already been arrested.
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At least I can count on MT.net not being ******* retarded regarding this. Well minus one person who obviously has no clue.

So many dumb posts regarding this on FB and social media. Mostly by ignorant ***** who want to do whatever whenever, with out consequences.

Now personally I feel that SUV driver really did well not just doing donuts all over every one of these motorcyclists. It would have taken a lot of will power to not just aim for them and pick them off one at a time.

I can't imagine the driver didn't have a phone (I didn't read any articles maybe this is explained) but I would have definitely called the police, especially if I had to plow through a bunch of dumb dumbs, then stay on the highway until the police pulled me over.
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I didn't realize Jason condones gang violence.
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At first I was on the bikers side until I read the story and saw some of the other videos and read the story attached. The guy is completely in the clear in my eyes, but still an idiot. Why would you risk an incident with THAT many people by hitting one of them. They guy on the bike did brake check, but it certainly wasn't so far he couldn't have slowed and avoid hitting him. So for that he is either really stupid to risk a major *** beating and danger to his family, or really unlucky that he wasn't paying attention at that crucial second.
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I dont think I couldnt have run them over.

I probably would have run over every one that slowed in front of me at all.

Just creamed them.

Honestly, what else is there to do?

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Honestly, what else is there to do?

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Slow down and not run them over, and let them go on their merry, road terrorizing way to mess with someone else and not you or your family. At least that seems pretty logical to me.....

Besides, the video and story doesn't tell what happened before the camera started rolling. Right from the get go it looks like the bikes have turned their attention to this guy for some reason. He may have already achieved other feats of asshattery.
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So they are surrounding you, hitting your car, attempting to stop you, and you just comply and stop, let them open your doors and stomp you and your family to death?

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