Did you watch the video? The first violent action taken was the Rover hitting the guy on the white bike. Before the video shows nothing but the guy on the white bike looking at the driver, then pulling in front of him and slowing down. I'm sorry, but that isn't cause for running people down.

At the point of them surrounding the car and trying to get in and get you out, then yeah, I can see running them down. But my point is that it shouldn't have gotten that far. The guy shouldn't have made the initial hit on the white bike.

That video doesnt show him getting slashed up in the face with knives at the end, nor does it show anything before him hitting the bike.

In other words, given the behaviour of the bikers in other videos, Im going to assume they behaved the same way.

Dann

Which is exactly what I said. We don't know the whole story. BUT, seeing what we do see in the video, the guy in the Rover made the first bad move by hitting the guy on the bike who brake checked him. Had he slowed down and let them continue on by, things may have gone differently.

The first violent move was not hitting the brake-checking cyclist, the first violent move was brake-checking the swarmed and unnerved motorist who very well could have been checking mirrors to see just how far back this unruly gang went, or trying to tell his child in the backseat "we'll be okay".

Honestly, the only mistakes the driver of the SUV made was getting off of the freeway and not having a glock under his seat for immediate use when his drivers side window was getting smashed in.

Since you didn't add any commentary to you post, it seemed like you were posting this with the mindset of the link you gave: where the suv driver was in the wrong and you were happy to see gang members use violence against him.

Twice I've been at a bike week in my car and I can tell you it's really not fun driving around so many cycles. They ride in your lane, swere in and out of traffic, ride your bumper and it's hard to tell when they are stopping. I've seen plenty of close calls.

Here's a clip from a rider from this year's event:


Fortunately they are a peaceful group of mostly rich lawyers and doctors on overpriced harleys and not a gang of thugs. But as you can see the street is full of bikes and it's really unpleasant to drive around; let alone the noise pollution, omfg.

did YOU watch the video?! You really need to look up the definition of violent, take good long look in the mirror, then punch yourself.

Pretty much this...


People would be dead if this happened around here.

Fortunately, people around here aren't stupid enough to start shit with people weather it's a tiny asian in a range rover or a bunch of nutcase bike riders.

whether.

Braineack- how long have you known Jason? When he posts a seemingly random link to external commentary, we are supposed to understand that the video / article which the link leads to explains how whatever is being discussed is the fault of the Federal Reserve bank, regardless of trivial BS like facts and truth.

Homophones i think. English failed me.

Detroit failed you.

New terrain setting on Range Rovers

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1380631849

Same here in Jacksonville, where it's fairly common for people to carry. I had an incident last week in the Lotus on an on-ramp that was being necked down to one lane because of construction. I genuinely just merged, did nothing overtly wrong (like, signaled, slowly changed lanes, no stupid shit) but somehow set the guy in the Suburban now behind me OFF. For the next five minutes the dude laid on his horn (constantly), kept his high beams on (8 AM?), aggressively tailgated and raged at me through his windshield, and me and my .380 just sat and laughed at him. He was genuinely Out Of Control, and yet didn't get out and approach my car (we were in stop and go traffic), which I have to think may have something to do with the prevalence of CCP's down here. Had he approached my car and attacked me I'd have dropped him in a second; the guy was unhinged.

Back on topic though, I really feel for the Range Rover dude and his family. Think about their experience; you're out on a beautiful day just doing Your Thing, suddenly you're swarmed by hundreds of completely lawless animals who have come to town specifically to be lawless animals, they harass and menace you, going so far as to force you to stop and attacking you and your family, you flee but are chased down and beaten in the street like a dog.

We do live in savage times.

The "brake check" the guy on the bike did was not what I would consider a violent action. It wasn't even a real brake check. Yeah, his lights came on, but it looked more like slowing in gear off throttle. The guy in the SUV had plenty of reaction time, IF, like I already said, if you read it, the guy was actually paying attention to the road. He chose the hit the bike (again, if he saw it) which started the whole situation which led to window smashing and an ass kicking. I'm not sticking up for the bikers, just saying it was a stupid move on the guys part to hit the bike which if he was paying attention to, could have easily avoided hitting.

oh i didnt realzie you were in the car with the guy and dicussed how you were going to run over bikers. my bad.

Fuck off Jesse.

There, I said it.

A group of people (100+) on unmarked bikes with no plates swarm around the car and try to slow it.

I'm hitting those guys every time.

Fuck being one of your children.

Dann

LOL. Yeah, I don't get your side of the argument Jesse.

Bikers created the situation, and escalated the situation.

Yes. Better to die a victim than fight back. Hopefully your wife and daughters aren't raped much before they are killed as well. At least you can die knowing you never resorted to violence.

The bike brake-checked the SUV on a 6-lane highway. Don't be a dumb ------ on this forum or I'll ban you for "homosexual thought".

Yep, the bikers were in the wrong 100%. Don't understand the other side of the argument at all