rant: 240sx's for sale
 

what is with these people that make them think that 240s are made of freakin gold? My buddy is trying to get one, so we have been looking for awhile. This one kid has a 240 with a KA that he turboed himself. Has like 140k miles on it, it s OK job, and he is asking 6k. Seriously! we have 4500 in cash to give, and the guy just keeps messing with us, saying that hell maybe take 5k or some shit. Not to mention the front bumper is cracking, roof has a bunch of dents in it from a dis lodged hood, and the interior is dirty as hell. Then there is this dude with a 1990 240 with a STOCK sr20 that wont budge from 8500 dollars! WHAT THE FUCK. THEN there is a dude with a 95, 140k miles, and a sr20. He wont budge from 6500!

Why do 240sx owners think their car is so damn valuable!? When you get a 240 do you have the past owner shove a dildo up your ass or something? All of them have been asses to me, when all I do is try to give them a fair offer.

UGH

Oh I forgot. One guy with a 96 with a sr20. We went to see it, and it wouldent even start the first day. He wiggled some shit, and it ran. The ECU was all over the floor, no radio or wireing, fairly stock sr20, and the battery was in the trunk falling over. He wouldent take under 6!!! :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

I know what you mean. I have this friend Mike Rivelli....

FWIW, I have friends with 240s. KA powered 240s are damn good cars IMO. Worth more than a miata of same year easy. Also have a friend that did a 12 valve to SR20 swap. I'm'a tell you that ain't a cheap swap. He paid 2K for just the engine with "all the stuff that comes with it". Hehe. Got a choped wiring harness, no A/C or P/S shit whatsoever, and it was missing a few odds and ends like a FPR and charge pipes, etc. I know he had to have spent 4K by the time he got it running on the new engine. Now that doesn't mean it's worth 4K more, but it ain't a cheap swap by any means.

If the 140K SR20 swapped car for 6500 is truly a well done swap and a good car, I'd pay that price. Might be too high for your friend, but IMO it's worth the price for what you get.

three words:

supply and demand

hehe... Ya I've had a few in my day. I sold them for more money than they where worth as well. Subtract a 25% dr1f7er tax for any 240 for sale and you will see the real price it's worth. Miata doesn't have any fan boy taxes added to the sale price. Also find an 86-87 RWD corolla for sale and the dr1f7er tax is damn near 50% over what it's worth.

For example, here is the guy that is messsing with us about $5k. 14x,xxx on the car, it doesent idle right becaus eof a shitty tune and BOV (safc POS), needa a new clutch ASAP, and well you can see the rest. Its a KA-T

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AE86 markup is just retarded. I see clapped out corollas going for insane money.

Like Mike said, 240s just have the drift tax. Try finding an unmolested 240, I bet its nearly impossible.

It's the "me too" car. I've been in 240's for about 7 years and AE86 Corollas for about 5. I have had 3 240s and 2 Corollas. Once drift took over, it went nuts. I'm an Admin on az240sx.org which is the center of all things drift in Arizona. I've stuck with 240s because I like the simpleness of their maintenance. I've always focused on autocross and only did my first drift event 2 weeks ago. Funny how my Miata go so much attention in a sea of 240/rx7/350z/AE86.

Years ago, the corolla's were just shit boxes. I liked them because they were light weight and rwd. I raced one for a year and it taught me to carry more speed through corners because I couldnt just power away like a turbo miata could. I paid 400 dollars for my first red panda. Suddenly, Initial D landed here during the drift craze infancy and the "Hachi" got stupid expensive and in a super hurry. A cherry GTS with low miles and no rust is now a 5,000 dollar car easy. A shitty example is 2K if it runs and has half of it's interior. We say these have the initial d tax.

As I said earlier, the 240 is the new me too car. It's a logical progression from Civic to 240 so the kids can graduate from FNF to drift. It's cooler now. I'm hoping the hyundai gets popular so they stop crashing these cars with their street drift. The SR swap is a very logical swap. My girlfriends 240 has an SR at stock boost and it makes the car lively and fun. Makes sense, they come in 240s in Japan and are plentiful. E85 tuning is making a big hit. There are 2 cars I know of for sure doing exclusive E85 to see if there is any long term effects.

If you want a 240, buy one not modified and preferably automatic. The manual swap is simple and straight forward. An SR swap done well with a decent FMIC and nice wire job will run you about 4-5K in it self for a redtop. KA-T are amazingly torquey. A decent set of pistons/rods, add a T25 with good fuel/ignition and it will run all over an SR.


Hope this was in logical sense and not too long.


D R I F T I N G is on word filter ?

When I waas trying to get rid of my 240 I couldn't get rid of it for anything. It was a bone stock 5-spd 92, perfect body, no rust, power nothing except steering, nice clean system, interior was immaculate, stock ka24 dual cam with 102,XXX miles. I tired to sell that thing for months before I finally let it go for $1200, I was pissed.

I'm talking to a guy about a $5k 1990 Miata with 105k miles on it. Granted its supercharged and comes with a bag of goodies, but hey. I don't have to do the work to get it where it is (I could if I wanted to), and I know that if I went to build it myself, I'd spend more than 5k on mods alone.

On the flip side. I'VE NEVER LIKED 240's... EVER. They're like 4 cyl. mustangs. The guys that own them only do two things with them. Race them in a straight line (which is very Mustang-owner of them), or they spend time smashing curbs, guard rails and, on some occasions, other cars (or what they like to call dorifting).

Tell your buddy to get a Z car or an RX7. Yes... I said the rotary word... I would take a kick in the nuts and a Daewoo Lanos before buying a modded 240.

the problem I see with them or any "me too" car is that you have a much larger crowd of people modding them and hence many more people modding them who don't know shit. With a miata and other less widely popular sports cars you tend to find a larger percentage of work done well because the owners are true enthusiasts and not fan boys (cr.net excluded of course). That's why I will never buy a 240/ae86.

It's so depressing that rotted out, 200k+ mile basket case AE86s go for $1500 and up around here.

I need a damn time machine.

I have one.. Its an se.
http://a209.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...0a0416c190.jpg

i cant wait to get a 240!

Thats worth $15k easy.

Haha I kid. But it is getting so hard to find clean unmolested imports for reasonable money. When I was looking for my current daily (94 Integra), I couldn't find ONE unmodified car for sale until mine popped up on craigslist. I ran down to Chicago that day and convinced the guy to hold it for me until the end of the weekend because he had 3 or 4 other people in line after me to see the car and I knew it would sell. Just for the hell of it, I kept looking on craigslist after I picked mine up for a few weeks, and I never saw another stock teg for sale.

Are imports going to be the "muscle cars" of our adulthood?

For $1500 you can have a rotted out one :giggle:
Lots of 240s around here... if you like your shifting done for you (score pat!). ;)

Talk to any middle aged guy with an import (meaning Japanese or European compact or pony car) and they'll tell you that imports would never be like muscle cars. Not unless the Japanese discover engine displacement. But somehow I think that a 400 cubic inch powered Supra or Mazda is in any of our futures. Not from the OEM market anyhow.

The thing about muscle cars is their classic status. I'm sure that a lot of imports would never appeal the way a 76 Trans Am would- or a 70 SS Chevelle. Well... You get my point. I classify imports and even newer muscle cars (i.e. LS Camaros, Terminator Cobra's, C5+ Vettes, Vipers) as sports cars. Rods died in the 50's, muscle cars died in the early 80's and sports cars have held the spotlight since.

i've wanted one long before the drift scene. i searched forever to find the exact one i wanted, found it last year and drove to VA to get it, the guy was 50-55 and it was given to him by family from florida. white base coupe no rust, manual trans, no sunroof. it's under the knife right now going KA-T

a couple of buddies and I went to a "dorifto meet event" locally last sunday (bored out of our skulls) and the hideousness of some of the cars there made me want to gouge my eyes out. the 240 is the new civic, and whats worse is that kids these days have EVEN LESS taste. 6 foot body kits, zip ties holding EVERYTHING together, retarded rims, etc.....

what made me REALLY laugh is that the ONLY cars with real name brand turbo's/turbo kits were the sponsored ones:bowrofl:
everyone that did their car on their own, got a fleabay special "t3/t4 mad tyte jdm type r racing sports" turbo kit that is on its way out after a couple months
so sad

944 gotta disagree with you about the muscle cars.

Barret Jackson pulls so much money and draw because of the nostalgia. Granted, the cars were in much lower production numbers, but you bet 40 years from now people will be looking for Mint Nissan S12's and paying a lot of money for one, possibly even for one with a CA18DET as it would have come in japan. Saying imports or current cars won't be part of our growing old and appreciating the older times is like saying we won't have our own "oldies" or "classic rock" station and all us "old fogies" (when we get there) are supposed to listen to is what our grandparents currently do.

In fact I bet part of our generations old car nostalgia and desires will be based off owning something good old internal combustion with some damn kick in the pants petrol.

I think that the S14 is a very very pretty car. I've been slowly looking for my next car and it really looks lovely to me. I saw a great example of one on the 495 about a month ago with a fluttery BOV (probably a TIAL like mine :( ) but it was perfect. I know that people use them for doritoifto but I'm sure they must be somewhat track-worthy right?

Trying to find a 90s DSM, Civic, Integra or 240 that hasn't been fucked to death by kids is nearly impossible.

JDM DR1FT!

I understand. Let me explain. I think I skewed my own point. I do think that there are cars that will be highly sought after. I mean. Look at early gen Corolla's, Datsun 510's etc. Now. I was classifying the different genre cars as they pertain to the era's in which they were built. I firmly believe that muscle cars are non-related to the cars we get today. To say modern cars won't have the value that the classics we now know, is pure opinion. I don't see someone wanting a Camry like someone wants a classic Malibu. Just as I don't see someone wanting an EXA like other's want an AMC. But as generations move on, the definition of "classic" moves too.

I think the Sports car era is here and the Muscle car era is long gone. We might see it again. A sudden fascination with straight-line speed and gas mileage be damned. Right now? That's not a reality, although I'm sure a few of you, my dad and I included, would all like to see the muscle car age return. I would have personally loved to grow up in the 60's so I could be old enough to enjoy all the modern classics we see. Hell, I'd love to pick up a C3 Vette or Camaro SS for 5-10k lol.

But, I see what you mean, MX_Eva.

Last year I saw a bone stock 91 manual hatch with a huge gouge in the driver's side door go for $3700, granted it did have very little rust.

A friend of mine bought a clean (no rust), stock auto hatch for $2K this winter. There are good examples out there, but you'll probably only find them from middle aged owners who don't know of they're dorifto status.

Local 240 for sale. Very nice and a decent price.
http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/861682242.html

I sold my KA-T s13 two years ago to fund my turbo miata project.
Turbo miata > turbo 240 (with the same amount of money invested)

There is a current wanted ad on my local CL. He wants a clean, stick only, no rust or damage, unmodded 92-97. He's willing to pay $2,000.:jerkit:

I have one of those too :giggle:

http://a654.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...da4f8206c5.jpg

Its my current daily beater(the paint isnt nearly as nice as it looks in that pic), but other than the paint shes pretty damn clean. Perfect interior. I picked her up for $950, and the only thing "riced out" about it was the "A" was flipped upside down. HONDA REPRESENT, YO!

I love my teg, so damn reliable.

Dude you make me feel like I spent a fortune!

I paid 2750 for mine, $100 under KBB. Bone stock, 1 family owned (all over 30), EVERY repair record. Paint is good except it has the beginning of the Honda cancer, and there are a shit load of tiny door dings, typical for a Chicago car.

Wish I paid $950.. That price around here gets you a pile of junk.

I am LOVING 32MPG, considering I went from a 00 Eclipse GT to this. It needs a tune up bad, should be 34+ after that. :)

Seafoam that ho and do a plug/wire job on it. That, new fluids, and the car shouldn't need anything else. Unless it needs a timing belt or something...

LOL
People do it with their POS Miatas too.

The 240 price is just because of all those fucken dr1fters...

I think the S13 and S14 are great looking cars. I seriously considered getting one before I got my miater. In fact, I think a big part of why I didn't was because I couldn't find one which wasn't a riced out piece of shit that didn't cost an arm and a dick. It's really sad to see SO many ragged out. I see at least 6 or 7 daily, all wanting to race. Where's their taste? Paint fading, primer, rust, body kits barely on, STUPID ass rims. I mean really? I'm all about doing your own work and tuning but why would you skimp out and half ass your own shit? So sad.

i used to have '93 hatchback w/ '95 engine that had around 70k on it. picked it up for $2k.

Me? Its on the list of to-dos, whenever I stop being lazy ha.

here's a not horrible one:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/cto/871787581.html

Dont worry about that, yours looks much cleaner. Mine has a decent sized dent in the drivers side front fender, and a bunch of dings. And the clear is peeling on the paint. It has 130k miles, and perfect interior, with ac/sunroof/power windows, but its not that pretty.

Mine gets 33mpg pretty easy. I keep its oil changed, and it has fresh plugs/wires/fuel fillter, etc.

Back before this drift ------ crap came around (like, in 2000) I bought TWO 240sx's for $500.00. There was easily 1.87 total cars between the two of them. Stripped the .87 complete one and parted it out on ebay then planned a swap on the second. Around 2002 I had a Chevy LQ9 6.0L 400hp V8 and T56 swap lined up then got laid off work. The project sat for years, then in early 2007 decided that I'd never touch the car again and I sold the car on ebay for $1800.

I'll have to see if there are any photos of the car that I still have, but not likely. 164,000 mile 1990 SE with OEM non-power sunroof, had been totaled 4 times, had the SE Lip that was broken, broken front bumper, both front fenders trash, hood was slightly messed up, and there were so many door dings in the side it almost looked like severe hail damage. Interior was beyond filthy, and the only way to get the cigarette smoke smell out would've been to firebomb the bastard. The rear hatch had one of those foam piece of shit wings mounted on it, which, leaked into the rear hatch and started to rust out the spare tire well. In the years I owned it never once did she start or even move under its own power.

Some tools drove all the way from Iowa to pick up the POS. Never in my life did I imagine that I'd make about $2000.00 off the car having NEVER even touched it. Yeah, he wanted to swap in an SR20 and drift it. Weaksauce. :giggle:

You know, once all these 240s and AE86s are used up and too ragged out, I bet they'll start moving towards our cache of unmolested miatas. I'm seeing more and more tastefully modded miatas out there and that would be just enough motivation for your typical slack jawed ricer to hack one up.

I have noticed in the last year or so, Miata ricings seem to be going up. I am hearing about more kids selling their 240s for Miatas too.. And I swear to god the next mother fucker that walks up to my car and asks if I drift is getting back handed.

Yeah. I'd like to slap the shit out of everyone who asks that. Simply reply in a calm and rude voice, "no, I don't 'drift.' I participate in real racing."

Mother of fu(k please no :mad:

Actually, a lot of car people have asked if mine was turbo'd. Probably because of the body kit and lowering springs. They asked even before my car was turbo'd. I've had a lot of wack ass conversations with people though including how the Miata was crap to turbo "cuz my friend has a greddy n he can't get it 2 run properly" or how if I run more than 6psi my motor will sexplode or how my car is only good for "stoplight racing" beacuse it's lightweight "and can get a jump on other cars". :bowrofl: I don't top speed race too much because I don't want to die but I can slowly reel in M3s (e46) at 100mph so neener neener.

I'm actually thinking of getting a NA and gutting the hell out of it. I've pussied out on curves a little since turboing and also since i fed my car guardrail last year and a beater might be fun. I can get some ******** stickers for it.. A little appreciation for my NB wouldn't hurt considering it's depreciated much more than an RX8 and they're kinda weaksauce...

I looked at this car a while back. Dead sexy IMO. I ended up going w/ another Miata but I thought this was a pretty good deal for a super clean '90 240 Coupe w/ SR and A/C. $5000. I've got no affiliation at all, just tought someone might be interested.

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/ca...nt-sr-etc.html

was the person asking being rude to you?

I don't think I'll ever find that moment of ecstasy in the middle of a "drift". I'm just too much of a humanitarian for curbs and tasteful wheels. Not to mention tires.

curbs? This i legitimately don't understand.

Tasteful wheels??
(um. so i guess everyone should just drive on RP F1s it'd be so cool...) Oh wait some people do drift on those. and volk TE37s. I actually have no idea what this is based on. I've never seen rediculous obnoxious wheels on a drift car, i've seen cheap wheels, but no chromed out heavy SOBs. unless you are talking about lip..but that's all about fitment, though a good lip is nice looking.

Tires. well...yeah tires, but lets face it, the people smoking tires that you'd use for street grip or light auto-xing are really only pros sponsored by said tire manufacturer. Most people who are in grass roots are using old 4 seasons or just cheap tires. I've never drifted on a fresh set of tires so, in my mind i'm giving new life to something that was wasted.

Then you've never been in one worth feeling that way...:)
There shouldnt be curbs involved either..
As for tasteful wheels, we all have opinions and they are all like assholes right..??
Tires, they are made to be destroyed..

Now I've been sidways. But that was only accompanied by the feeling of, "Oh shitI'mgonnadie!"

But I don't think getting sideways in a front wheel drive car is the same.

Very true. One of the many components on a car that HATE torque.

944, I am just fucking with you :cool:
I have to. I dr1ft. I have a fully prepped track car with cheap wheels :)

I was just... fucking back? lol. I am just joking. My reference to being sidways was a long time back when I tried following an MR2 in a FWD car. Went around a sweeper at about 65ish and the rear end stepped out when I let off the throttle a little. BIG MISTAKE.

If you drift with a car meant for that sport, Hats off to you. Street buttsecks (i.e. curb smashing)? No no.. :D

Buttsex is only ok in a safe protected environment. :bowrofl:

I am an ontrack guy..

would you guys go fuck with each other somewhere else? the buttsex in here is starting to smell :giggle:

My mouth tastes like shit... Wait...:eek5:

ok I'm prepared to be flammed......

Have most of you ever tried d r i f i t i n g? and not getting sideways around a turn by your house or doing donuts, but like legitimately going to a local track when they hold a drift0 night? It's actually very fun and a lot harder than it looks.

Yea it kills tires, but thats why you dont keep putting NT-01's on them and you settle for dz101' at 50$ each (15's) thats even if you wanted to go brand new, almost any tire shop let you take used tires for FREE because it saves them from having to deal with getting rid of them.

I'm not saying it's the best thing in the world, but it is fun, and dont knock it till you try it.

ed zachary

I used to "drift" every chance I could on public streets. Oversteer is fun. Yes, I was inspired by initial D. If you haven't seen that cartoon or read the manga, it's actually quite cool. I did do it cheap notsosticky tires and I think it's actually much easier to do well on stickier tires. All those "drift" cars in import tuner and super street do look very damn fine too. I would like it if my car looked that fine.

Saw a totally ragged out miata today with a bunch of lame ass stickers and a poser bodykit. Forget it, it's starting now. RWD, boost friendly motor, huge aftermarket, and most of all, cheap. If it wasn't such a 'gay' car it would have already happened. Do yourselves a favor and pick up a spare miata before they're all gone or magnificently overpriced. :(

Workin on it.

The Miata is the new corolla in the drift scene..

Thats my claim..

OP should look into Sth FL and NY craigslist...few of them on there now for under your price range that seem fairly unmolested...

I really hope you're wrong