soldering iron - Page 2 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Insert BS here A place to discuss anything you want

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-02-2009, 05:00 PM   #21
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago (Over two miles from Wrigley Field. Fuck the Cubs. Fuck them in their smarmy goat-hole.)
Posts: 26,317
Total Cats: 1,913
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazda/nissan View Post
Someone mentioned solder, what is everyone having the best luck with?
Avoid all the fancy ****. The best solder for manual assembly of through-hole parts is still plain ole' 60/40 rosin-core. I like to use the thinnest I can find. At home, I've got a roll of .025", but if all you can get locally is .032", that'll do fine. You can get it at Radio Shack: Rosin Core Solder (8.0 oz.) - RadioShack.com


As to the iron, just buy the damn Weller WES51. Soldering with a cheap iron is a frustrating experience.
Joe Perez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 05:05 PM   #22
I'm Miserable!
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: albany, ga
Posts: 1,869
Total Cats: 3
Default

I use two old cheap radioshack 15 watt irons I have. One with a stand to put the hot iron. Better then laying it out and reaching over it and burning the **** out of your arm.
Techsalvager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 05:11 PM   #23
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,831
Total Cats: 1,786
Default

Braineack is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 05:29 PM   #24
Elite Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Bellingham, Wa
Posts: 2,732
Total Cats: 3
Default

nice sweater
wayne_curr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 05:54 PM   #25
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 2,084
Total Cats: 0
Default

and what appears to be the infamous fetching cat?
mazda/nissan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 05:57 PM   #26
meatbag
iTrader: (50)
 
gospeed81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 7,357
Total Cats: 26
Default

I'm going to start blaming that cat for my resets.
gospeed81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 07:06 PM   #27
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Milpitas, CA
Posts: 1,057
Total Cats: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Perez View Post
Avoid all the fancy ****. The best solder for manual assembly of through-hole parts is still plain ole' 60/40 rosin-core. I like to use the thinnest I can find. At home, I've got a roll of .025", but if all you can get locally is .032", that'll do fine. You can get it at Radio Shack: Rosin Core Solder (8.0 oz.) - RadioShack.com


As to the iron, just buy the damn Weller WES51. Soldering with a cheap iron is a frustrating experience.

Amen. I am so glad I bought a new soldering iron station. I bought mine from CSI, it has a digital read out, and came with a free brass coil tip cleaner. And from my experience, GET THE TIP CLEANER. Its ******* amazing. Three stabs into your it with your dirty iron = clean looking iron in seconds.

This is the one I have. Its great. Circuit Specialists Inc. - Digital Display Soldering Station (CSI-STATION2A)

Oh, check out the promotions tab. If you spend at least 50 bucks, you get a FREE gift, like a free DMM! They used to offer a huge plier set, but they are all gone i guess.

Heres that tip cleaner im talking about. YOu can get it at fry's too.
http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7499

Last edited by Marc D; 10-02-2009 at 07:28 PM.
Marc D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 07:09 PM   #28
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,831
Total Cats: 1,786
Default

that hot tweezer looks awesome.
Braineack is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 07:43 PM   #29
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,775
Total Cats: 1,106
Default



Thats the soldering iron I use daily.
shuiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 08:18 PM   #30
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago (Over two miles from Wrigley Field. Fuck the Cubs. Fuck them in their smarmy goat-hole.)
Posts: 26,317
Total Cats: 1,913
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Techsalvager View Post
I use two old cheap radioshack 15 watt irons I have.
This is why you are still a virgin.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shuiend View Post
Thats the soldering iron I use daily.
Grrr. I miss the ole' Metcal MX-500s we had at PR&E. You could solder I-beams together with one tip, and then do TQFPs with another.
Joe Perez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 08:44 PM   #31
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

I got one of those butane powered portable multi-tool irons for use outside. It's nice to not deal with extension cords when you're hanging under the dash. I also usually throw it in my tool kit if I go somewhere.

At a miata meet once, someone's CAS wiring barrel crimps came undone. Luckily I had my butane iron. Otherwise he'd have been stuck.
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 09:06 PM   #32
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central-ish VA
Posts: 4,449
Total Cats: 16
Default

I've been using the same $7 radio shack iron AND TIP for the last 7 years. I can solder anything under the sun with it. Leg broken off at the chip on a memory chip, got you covered. I used to desolder memory chips from dead xboxs and then solder those chips into good boards for linux and emulators. Anything thats not BGA I can handle.

When the the tip gets oxidized, I hit it with some sand paper, and tin it. It used to be like an inch long, now its like 1cm. Gonna need to be replaced soon.

What I'm saying is, a great iron does not make a great solderer.
neogenesis2004 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 09:28 PM   #33
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
nicacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SLC UT
Posts: 1,133
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djp0623 View Post
Thanks everyone. Low cost is bueno

I'm threadjacking my own thread if that's possible.

What gauge wire is everyone using when building their COP harness?
I just did mine with 16 gauge

I've had a couple shitty 45watt soldering irons from walmart for years now.. I hate them but they work
nicacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 11:14 PM   #34
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 58
Total Cats: 0
Default

If you use the hotter irons (~50w) on small circuit boards, you have to be really careful about applying too much heat. You can warp, burn, and even lift solder pads with too hot an iron.

I have a 10w/15w (don't really remember what it is, the lettering has worn off) that I use to build MS (12 in 4 years, none have failed so far) and I use it to fix xbox's and TVs as well. Make sure the tip is in good shape.

If the iron will be hot and idle for a while (say during assembly), or about to be disconnected (let to be cooled) be sure to evenly coat it with solder. On the next use, wait for it to warm up and clean the solder with a damp sponge. Then re-tin it with a little bit of solder.

Doing this will protect the coating on the tip and make soldering easy. Never sand/file a tip, just replace it.
mafoose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2009, 01:32 AM   #35
:(
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,281
Total Cats: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
I go through a **** ton of tips however and try my best to keep them clean. I pretty much just learned how to solder by doing it. I have no idea if I'm doing it good, let alone correctly.
judgeing from the work you did on my MS baord cleaning up the mess i made you do an excelent job.
magnamx-5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2009, 01:50 AM   #36
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,038
Total Cats: 406
Default

I know I'm late on this but the circuit specialists soldering station is very good for the price and replacement tips are cheap.

Circuit Specialists Inc. - CSI Deluxe Station w/Analog Display (CSI-STATION1A)

Just turn the dial to 740 and go nuts.
y8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2009, 02:05 AM   #37
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Mach929's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: lansdale PA
Posts: 2,500
Total Cats: 0
Default

it's not really what you use, but how you use it. a guy i work with used to solder for nasa, his stuff is always perfect beyond perfect
Mach929 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2009, 02:46 PM   #38
Junior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Salinas, CA
Posts: 446
Total Cats: 1
Default

I use a Master UT200 butane soldering iron. This iron is an animal, yet with the right tip will do PC board work with ease. The variable heat out put is the best part, on its lowest setting it is great for small work. But lets say you need to solder some wires on your car on a cold evening, while it is extremely windy. Crank the heat out put to max, and it makes good solid solder joints. I originally bought it for when I was RC racing, and needed a track side iron to solder my motors, and batteries in. It is 15 years old now and works great still (even the pizo igniter still works).

Qckslvr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 12:48 AM   #39
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,782
Total Cats: 119
Default

I use a weller but for solder I absolutely recommend Radio shack "high tech" or maybe it's "hi tek" solder. It just flows much better than the regular stuff. Super nice. I've also used ultra premo silver bearing solder but it just wasn't as good as the high tech stuff at radshack.
Faeflora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2009, 01:12 AM   #40
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 89
Total Cats: 0
Default

I've had a old Heathkit Gh-170 soldering station with the same tip for about 30 years and done maybe 150 guitar wirings and lord knows how many other jobs. How on earth are some of these folks going through tips so quickly???
jonljacobi is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another Cast Manifold Corky Bell Prefabbed Turbo Kits 18 11-22-2016 10:01 PM
My solution for Oiltemp and Oilpressure input into Megasuirt (MS3) Zaphod MEGAsquirt 41 01-24-2016 01:25 PM
Back to Stock Part Out!! Turbo Parts, MS2 Enhanced 01-05, Suspension, and MOAR! StratoBlue1109 Miata parts for sale/trade 16 10-02-2015 10:39 AM
ISO 1.6 turbo cast iron manifold cale saurage DIY Turbo Discussion 16 10-01-2015 12:25 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:05 PM.