Someone tell me this TV sucks. - Page 2 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Insert BS here A place to discuss anything you want

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-06-2009, 11:40 AM   #21
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,614
Total Cats: 2
Default

Dude, I couldn't be happier with my Samsung DLP...you don't need a flatscreen, you got the room...save yourself a few bucks and be thrilled...

Fwiw, I also have a Philips plasma, and I still like my Sam Dlp much better...
TonyV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 11:45 AM   #22
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 7,282
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tvalenziano View Post
Dude, I couldn't be happier with my Samsung DLP...you don't need a flatscreen, you got the room...save yourself a few bucks and be thrilled...

Fwiw, I also have a Philips plasma, and I still like my Sam Dlp much better...

Meh, I've seen your DLP and I dont really see any difference between it and my RCA rear projection HDTV. Another friend of mine has a 40" Samsund LCD and the picture is beautiful.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
levnubhin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 11:50 AM   #23
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,614
Total Cats: 2
Default

yea but u haven't seen it in HD my friend...

btw whatever you do go to Brandsmart..you'd be nuts not to....
I just check out their site and they have a few 50" plasma/lcd for under 1k....more like 700-800, and you walk out the door....
TonyV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 12:01 PM   #24
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 7,282
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tvalenziano View Post
yea but u haven't seen it in HD my friend...

btw whatever you do go to Brandsmart..you'd be nuts not to....
I just check out their site and they have a few 50" plasma/lcd for under 1k....more like 700-800, and you walk out the door....

So send it to me and I'll check it out. lol


Good idea on Brandsmart. The have the Samsung 550 for $1498 and they are offering 0% financing until Jan 2010.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
levnubhin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 12:26 PM   #25
Elite Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 2,116
Total Cats: 43
Default

I sell TV's myself, but my advice will be flier the friend's advice not flier the salesman's advice.

If your looking at a 50-52 you've got a couple of choices that are top on the market.

Any time you get a bigger LCD you'll want 120hz, probly looking at a Samsung 52" Series 6 LCD Black Flat Panel HDTV - LN52A650 at $2260. Or a LG 52" Black LCD Flat Panel HDTV - 52LG70 at $2180. Sony's will be priced even higher.

On the plasma side you've got Panasonic, top TV on the market and has the best picture clarity wise, especially on Blu-ray. If your going big and want the best you've got the Panasonic VIERA 50" Plasma Flat Panel Black HDTV - TH50PZ800U at $2096, its a one glass piece panel design, THX certified, blah blah, its consumer reports top pick for a 50-52. the is also a very good pick and is a lot better on price, Panasonic VIERA 50" Plasma Flat Panel 1080p HDTV In Black - TH50PZ80U at $1578


DLP's can't be beaten size to price, you'll probly want an LED bulb, something like the HL67A750 http://www.abt.com/product/34944.html is a damn nice big TV at $2299. the bulb can go out from power surge n ****, could find a replacement for around 250-300, or get a 3 or 5 year service plan most retailers offer which should cover unlimited bulb replacements, if it doesnt, dont get it.


abt prices are pretty close to "cost". If you've got an HHGregg near you go over there, you can haggle on price, show them abt's price and amazon's price and they'll take the deal. trust me, I work at one haha. and yes you can go in there and get yourself a 50' 720p for $799 sometimes, but its not going be the same quality as the TV's mentioned above.

LG manufactures a lot of the material used in a lot of name brands, lol. Samsung manufactures a lot the actual panels for certain companies also. But no, they don't all come from the same place, unfortnately for the consumer.
flier129 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 12:37 PM   #26
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 7,282
Total Cats: 0
Default

Im glad you brought up Plasma's. Tell me why I would want one over the other.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
levnubhin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 12:45 PM   #27
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Trent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,625
Total Cats: 5
Default

I love my old 42" 720p Panasonic Viera. Works like a champ and a great picture. Though ever since a buddy of mine got a 1080p DLP, I've been thinking about upgrading to the higher definition standard. I don't like DLP's in larger sizes though, because you get a weird color-shift effect when you move your eyes from one part of the screen to another. The color wheel in the TV inherently makes DLP's do that.
Trent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 12:47 PM   #28
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Loki047's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,145
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by levnubhin View Post
Im glad you brought up Plasma's. Tell me why I would want one over the other.
The case for LCD TVs

LCD sets offer a wider choice of screen sizes and a bigger selection of 1080p models than plasma sets, especially in smaller sizes. An LCD is the better choice for daytime viewing because the screens are usually brighter and less reflective than a plasma's. They also use somewhat less power. Some models have improved black levels and viewing angles, which have been traditional LCD weaknesses. Some Panasonics in our Ratings (available to subscribers) stand out as the only LCD TVs we've seen that look fine from any angle.
The case for plasma TVs

Plasma technology also has a lot going for it. Plasma TVs generally cost a bit less than LCD sets of comparable size and quality, especially in the largest sizes, and 1080p models are less expensive and more plentiful than they were a year ago. Our tests have found that the best plasma TVs are capable of deeper blacks and better contrast than LCD sets, resulting in rich, lifelike images. Plasma sets are usually better at handling fast motion than LCD sets, which tend to blur images. And plasma TVs have an almost unlimited viewing angle, so the picture doesn't degrade if you watch the TV from off-center. That's a plus if several people watch from various spots in a room.
Loki047 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 12:56 PM   #29
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Trent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,625
Total Cats: 5
Default

LCD TV's have rather expensive backlight bulbs that will eventually go out.

Plasma's can suffer burn-in if left on a static image for long long long periods of time. (this is MUCH better than they used to be). You can play video games on one without worry, but I wouldn't try to use one as a computer monitor. Also, plasma's will get dimmer and less vivid toward the end of their service lives, much as CRT's do. The service life of a modern plasma will still exceed that of a CRT though.

Some plasma's are a bit power hungry, and they do generate a bit of heat. Also, a plasma set needs to be broken in for a bit to extend the life of the set. You will run it at a lower brightness level for a fixed period of time and you should avoid static images as much as possible during the break-in period. That said, I think on my Viera, the breakin period was like 15 hours or something. Not that big of a deal.

I prefer the plasma due to the better contrast ratio and the better ability to display moving objects. That said, modern LCD sets have come a long way in the past year or so. So it's really up to you and your own personal preference. Go look a few sets in person and see which ones you like better.
Trent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:04 PM   #30
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,037
Total Cats: 406
Default

regarding the power issue, I've seen it mentioned (forget where) that there isn't really a power advantage on the LCD side because of the backlight remaining on. the plasma doesn't use as much juice on a black screen. so I'm not sure what the average usage is, but I'd like to see more tests.

at least that was until samsung came out with their multi-LED backlight which reduces the black screen light bleed by shutting down dark areas of the picture completely.

Samsung LED TV
y8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:09 PM   #31
Elite Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 2,116
Total Cats: 43
Default

looks like Loki quoted cnet or something similar, thats basically it really.

as far as blacklight life, LCDs and Plasma's are rated at 100,000 hrs or 25+ years if u watch the TV 8hrs a day.

burn-in does exist on plasma, you've got to try pretty hard to get one to burn in nowadays. they have pixel-shift and pixel-orbiters to prevent burn-in. but if u left a dvd menu on for 3 days straight, its going to burn-in and you'll have to white-wash the tv, which just burns all the pixels to the same level, decreasing the life of the tv tho.

all new panasonic and samsung plasmas are energy-star efficient, u might see a $5 difference annually in a 50' plasma and 52' LCD.

LG's LCD's are much better than they're plasma's, in fact they don't even have a 1080p plasma other than that 72' they make lol. i've seen burn-in on a couple of LG plasma's.
LG's LCD's actually have the least amount of glare vs any TV, but Samsung is going to give u the brightest picture.

As far as motion goes, plasma has never had problems with it. technically speaking panasonic plasma's have 480hz, they can say that by the way they measure it. never the less, u wont see blurring, juddering, or shadowing. on the plasma the 480 is actually just the refresh rate and the frame-rate is still a standard 60.

On the LCD side you've got 120hz, which makes things look very surreal. You've got the refresh rate at 120 and the frame-rate at 120 also, which provides an awesome picture when any action or sports is going on, especially on a blu-ray.

edit: yeah what y8s said, if you want to wait til they release LED LCD's the price of current LCD's with 120hz will drop some . the prices of standard 720p LCDs have chapped out at around 450-500 bucks
flier129 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:22 PM   #32
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ABQ, NM
Posts: 1,850
Total Cats: -8
Default

That tv sucks.
BenR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:27 PM   #33
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 7,282
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenR View Post
That tv sucks.
wow thanks, there only been about 1/2 a dozen tv's mentioned here.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
levnubhin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:46 PM   #34
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ABQ, NM
Posts: 1,850
Total Cats: -8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by levnubhin View Post
wow thanks, there only been about 1/2 a dozen tv's mentioned here.


Don't get all wounded, I'm just trying to do what the thread title says.
BenR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:49 PM   #35
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 7,282
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenR View Post
Don't get all wounded, I'm just trying to do what the thread title says.

Not me, but it would help if you told me why you think it sucks. If someone came up to me on the street and said Miata's suck I wouldn't sell mine.

__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
levnubhin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:52 PM   #36
Newb
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Middle Tennessee
Posts: 35
Total Cats: 0
Default

I am happy with my 50" Samsung DLP.

And if you are going to buy something like this, you should get in line on Black Friday. I paid $700 for my TV at Circuit City!

Of course, you'll have to wait until next year.
djmtsu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:56 PM   #37
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,614
Total Cats: 2
Default

dude ur tv is fine, ur lucky to be alive after xmas and all the crap u bought for ur car...

i'm with jared, save the money and have the car painted..otherwise you are never allowed to complain about it again.

ps--not to mention your tv spot isn't exactly in a kidsafe place either..., and keep in mind going HD requires more than just the TV...$$$
TonyV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 02:02 PM   #38
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 7,282
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tvalenziano View Post
dude ur tv is fine, ur lucky to be alive after xmas and all the crap u bought for ur car...

i'm with jared, save the money and have the car painted..otherwise you are never allowed to complain about it again.

ps--not to mention your tv spot isn't exactly in a kidsafe place either..., and keep in mind going HD requires more than just the TV...$$$
The car isn't getting painted until ALL mechanical stuff is done.

I already have HD thru DirecTv and I know Im not getting what im paying for with my currrent TV. At this point my TV is the weakest link in my home theater system so Im looking to upgrade.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
levnubhin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 02:08 PM   #39
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ABQ, NM
Posts: 1,850
Total Cats: -8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by levnubhin View Post
Not me, but it would help if you told me why you think it sucks. If someone came up to me on the street and said Miata's suck I wouldn't sell mine.



Yes but if I told you to tell me my miata sucked, it shouldn't be expected of me to get upset when you told me exactly that.


Seriously it looks like a good deal. If I was in the market I'd be looking at buying it too. But no way in hell would I finance a TV.
BenR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 02:12 PM   #40
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,614
Total Cats: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by levnubhin View Post
The car isn't getting painted until ALL mechanical stuff is done.

All mechanical stuff done = never

I already have HD thru DirecTv and I know Im not getting what im paying for with my currrent TV. At this point my TV is the weakest link in my home theater system so Im looking to upgrade.
I'm just saying you'll want hdmi cables, a blueray player, etc.. it adds up

this is starting to sound like the convo we had regarding your build budget....lol
TonyV is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Post your Job and what other cars you own/have owned 2Bit Insert BS here 197 01-18-2012 11:59 AM
WTB OEM passenger fender preferably in black for NB jdmitrswapped WTB 0 11-07-2011 04:19 PM
Anyone near Plano, TX that could check out a car for me? Efini~FC3S Insert BS here 2 10-16-2011 11:52 AM
Life sucks v2.0 gospeed81 Insert BS here 21 11-04-2010 03:16 AM
Damn, I forgot how much NA sucks. (new intake manifold thread) TurboTim DIY Turbo Discussion 23 10-02-2007 12:04 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:31 PM.