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Old 01-08-2009, 02:46 PM   #81
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I've been reading and it seems that 1080i over component for blu-ray should be possible as long as the ICT isn't set on the disk. I'm not sure how many disks don't have the token set. It's stupid imo. Who the hell is going to rip an analog signal? And they wonder why people hack their stuff and pirate instead of paying for it. When a bootleg works better than the original, with less hassle, there's a problem.
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If you've got the space, that's a nice choice. My buddy has the 52 or 57 inch version of that TV.

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If you've got the space, that's a nice choice. My buddy has the 52 or 57 inch version of that TV.

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Im gonna guess and say that my cabinet is expandable enough to hold a 70" screen. So it will fint nicely.
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:37 PM   #85
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so the issue with "image retention" on the LCoS is device specific for us. the panel retains the last bitplane sent to it if the unit is powered off for more than a day.
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oh and seeing rainbows (aka color breakup) SUCKS. but as illuminator cycling speeds and color wheel speeds increase, it goes away to some degree. and in a 3-panel system, it's not really an issue because you're not sharing an LED.
Even on the single-panel LED DLPs it doesn't seem to be a big deal. My understanding is that with the LED system, the blanking interval (the time during which the image is off, to wait for the color to cycle) is virtually zero. And of course they can run the refresh rate as high as they want.

Of course, I'm the guy who is also seriously bothered by the look of 24fps film in theaters using older projectors with 1:1 shutter ratios. (newer projectors will open the shutter two or three times per gate movement, to achieve an effective 48 or 72 Hz refresh rate)

Speaking of which, it is worthy of note that many movie screens today are equipped with digital projectors rather than film equipment. Digital cinema is growing in popularity as it improves consistancy (the media does not become damaged with handing and projection) and decreases duplication and distribution costs (studios can simply send out hard drives or optical discs, rather than having to print miles and miles of film). While a few different technologies exists, DLP owns the lion's share of this industry. That says something.


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I've been reading and it seems that 1080i over component for blu-ray should be possible as long as the ICT isn't set on the disk. I'm not sure how many disks don't have the token set. It's stupid imo. Who the hell is going to rip an analog signal?
Well, it is pretty stupid, if you actually analyze it. And the problem is that despite what the industry originally promised (that they wouldn't use it until 2012, as a concession to early adopters whose HDTV sets didn't support HDCP) they're doing it anyway. On the plus side, they are required to print a notice on the box, telling you whether ICT is active or not.

I've done some reading, and learned that originally, ICT was actually intended to prevent people from grabbing the digital datastream on unprotected DVI and HDMI interfaces and copying that. The way it's implemented, it just happens to apply to analog component as well.

The problem is that the folks who drempt up this scheme were idiots. Only a complete retard (or maybe Ben Heck) would go to all the trouble of intercepting and recording the realtime digital datastream coming out of the machine, when it's far easier (and doesn't require any special equipment) to just break the encryption on the original data and copy the disc verbatim. Sure, they thought AACS and BD+ would be unbreakable. Problem is, they thought the same thing about CSS, Videocipher, even friggin' Macrovision. Using ICT to protect BluRay is like installing 3/4" ballistic Lexan and DoD Class A (secret/secure) locks on every window in your home, despite the fact that your front door can be lifted off its hinges with a small screwdriver.


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Now that is Sparta! They also have that exact one at BB, so you can see it in person:Samsung - 61" 1080p Slim-Depth LED Engine DLP HDTV - HL61A750

I've looked at a couple of the LED, and they are awesome awesomeness. Nearly as good as a CRT in terms of color quality (and worlds above everything else) and no flicker or rainbows that I could detect. Assuming they're still around, my next set will be an LED DLP.
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Dude, I couldn't be happier with my Samsung DLP...you don't need a flatscreen, you got the room...save yourself a few bucks and be thrilled...

Fwiw, I also have a Philips plasma, and I still like my Sam Dlp much better...
^ 2days ago...

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^ 2days ago...

The trick is, you have to say it with panache. That, and lots of big words to make your opinion sound scholarly and well-informed.


Seriously, though. While shopping for a cheap in-car camera, I stumbled upon something very interesting: PocketCinema V10 - 42" Handheld Projector: Aiptek Shop

Ok, so it's only 640x480, and the brightness is 10 lumens (typical is >1000) but... damn it looks cool.
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This thread is costing me money. lol.

I am moving my trusty 42" 720p Panasonic plasma to the bedroom.

I want a 42-50" TV to replace it in the living room. The living room is small, so anything huge will look retarded. Now say I wanted to spend ~$1500.

Inputs will be a PS3 and a DirecTV HD-DVR.

Viewing distance from the TV is about 10'. Dark room, no reflection.

Thoughts?

Currently taking a long hard look at the 50" 1080p Panasonic plasma.
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still waiting for you to send it to me so I can test it.
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I want a 42-50" TV to replace it in the living room. The living room is small, so anything huge will look retarded. Now say I wanted to spend ~$1500.




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i'm not sold on DLP's, honestly. I can't get past the color shift "rainbow" problems with the technology. A buddy of mine has that exact TV, and it has horrible rainbow issues. :(

I haven't had a chance to see the new LED DLP's though.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:32 PM   #92
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oh we're talking projectors now? I want one of either:

SANYO LCD Projector Homepage | Lineup | PLC-XL50 Features
which projects from basically up against the screen (short throw)
so 8 centimeters from an 80 inch screen. yum!

or one of them new epson 1080p powerlite's for under $3k.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:40 PM   #93
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now, this on the other hand i could live with.

Panasonic - 46" 1080p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV - TH-46PZ80U
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So I just got back from BestBuy and like I said earlier I'm not impressed at all with the DLP rear projection TV's. They had the 67" Led Samsung TV right next to a 50" Panasonic plasma and the plasma looked waaaaayy better. The DLP would also be a problem in my living room because of some of the viewing angles. The image looked much darker when you stood to the side at about a 35* angle. To me the plasmas all looked better. I also realized that I want bigger that 50"s so im thinking this one now....

Samsung - 58" 1080p Wireless Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV - FP-T5894W
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Not sure about this Samsung now. Looks like this wireless thing is a problem. What isnt clear though is if you have to use the wireless feature.
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This looks promosing. A bit more money but much better reviews.

Buy the Samsung 58" Plasma HDTV and other LCD & Plasma TVs at circuitcity.com
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and I'm not convinced about the way the displays are setup in any of the stores...call me a bit of a conspiracy theorist, but i don't buy the night and day diff they sell you on...
my point, too many variables in the setup to compare apples to apples, esp from the guy making comission off the sale...

BUY a Sam 60/61 Dlp, take it home set it up properly and you'll love it. I know 2 other guys with the same TV as mine that have it setup right that love it, thats what made me go and buy mine...and i love it too...you could in the same club...
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So I just got back from BestBuy and like I said earlier I'm not impressed at all with the DLP rear projection TV's. They had the 67" Led Samsung TV right next to a 50" Panasonic plasma and the plasma looked waaaaayy better. The DLP would also be a problem in my living room because of some of the viewing angles. The image looked much darker when you stood to the side at about a 35* angle. To me the plasmas all looked better. I also realized that I want bigger that 50"s so im thinking this one now....

Samsung - 58" 1080p Wireless Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV - FP-T5894W
It is really hard to gauge a tv in a store setting. No matter what they do or tell you, the TV always looks different when it gets home, usually for the better. The lighting is always a killer in the store.
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I've got a ridiculously bright room that faces west, so all year long I get bright sunshine directly into the TV... so I've been only looking at LCD's.

Today I went to Fry's, BB, CC, and Sears. Right now, Sears has the Sammy LN52a650 for $2k plus 10% or 2yrs no anything on your Sears card. The 550 is cheaper than that.

The only problem is the stupid ******* red bezel. Samsung calls it ToC (Touch of Color). Somebody at Samsung marketing decided that more people would be lured from other manufacturers if they very lightly colored the bezel red ON AN ENTIRE PRODUCT LINE WITH NO OTHER CHOICE THAN RED than people who would have bought the TV because it's ******* awesome but can't get past the stupid ******* red ****. It's perfect otherwise... and for something I'll probably have for 10 years, it's gotta be 100% perfect.
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Everything you have said has been discredited by recommending Monster cable.

Hell, you can get a better cable for under 10 at monoprice.

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Indeed
Coat Hangers sound as good as Monster Cables

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