Ya you'll like like a star blowing out your diff and puking out gear oil all over the 1/4 :)
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Yeah...
that thing is toast one way or another...reschedule until after you get your rear in? Or have a chance of a rematch? Because if you blow it and loose your going to have to go home with your tail between your legs... If you just loose, you can say...oh well..thats life. |
Make sure you film it!
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what are you specs?
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 115819)
I think his car could run better than high 12's. a perfect run for him should be in the low 12's. and I don't quite get the thing about the torque curve, apparently you haven't seen mine.
Of course gearing matters and such .... but my point is that in any race, a high flat torque curve deep into the RPM range is a great thing to have and the Ferrari is built to have just that. |
haha you sound just like my friend. He wants to take down our friends C6 corvette after his plug in play MS gets dyno tuned
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Maybe agree to a roll on start....I would like to see the race without a blowup.
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Originally Posted by Lex
(Post 115862)
Well, you see, it is all about torque and how long you can sustain torque into the RPM band. I think the 360 makes somewhere around 400hp at 8500RPM ... which means he has 247 ft lbs of torque at 8500RPM - and peaks torque at 4750RPM which means he has at least a good 4200-4750 RPM around the torque peak point in each gear.
Of course gearing matters and such .... but my point is that in any race, a high flat torque curve deep into the RPM range is a great thing to have and the Ferrari is built to have just that. |
Originally Posted by turbopezz
(Post 115838)
also can he drive??
Drag radials = hard launch = diff for lunch. Frank |
yeah i dunno miata guys must suck i see alot of 2.0+ 60 ft times here. I hope i can improve on that with mine when i get around to running it.
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I vote for the driveline swap. It's a simple job- could easily be done a couple of nights after work. And you're gonna do it anyway. No doubt the 6" rear + drag radials is going to be a bomb. IMO, the drag radials are going to be the key hardware component in winning.
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I vote for a driveline swap right after it breaks at the strip.
how @#$)(&^ awesome would that be? "oh sorry diff broke, let me swap in another--back in an hour." and the ferrari guy meanwhile is pondering his $200 oil changes. |
Originally Posted by magnamx-5
(Post 115888)
Lex look at his dyno chart or any dyno plot for a boosted miata. We make more torque by 3000 rpm than you would at your peak being NA.
The 360 motor has a much better design, no arguing that, but I do think that the Miata's power to weight ratio could certainly make it a good contender in this case. |
The thing that amuses me about this whole setup is what your bud in the Ferrari plans to say after the race is over.
If he wins, he can't really brag to his friends about how he beat a little girlie car at the track. And if he loses, he'll have to sell the car. It's a no-win scenario for him. |
the power to wieght is exactly why he has a shot. We are moving less mass therefore we need less torque if he had a 4000 lbs buick he would need alot more torque and HP to make the numbers. Traction and driveline breakage are our defining limits not motor power in the ET department.
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Originally Posted by fmowry
(Post 115891)
Can Ben drive is the question. You'll run a 12.8 if you pull a good launch (1.7-1.9). If you pull a 2.2 60 you'll probably only run a 13.5.
Drag radials = hard launch = diff for lunch. Frank My 2.2 60' are not just bad driving, but rather you can only put so much power to a pair of 205/50/15's before they toast. Mark |
this better make it to youtube
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Ben sweet. A lot of people talk shit about miatas it would be great to regulate some of those cock suckers. Especially the cocky ones with expensive m3s,vettes,and ferraris. Good luck on the run but be careful with that rear end.
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I would like confirmation from Ben that this event is being video taped!
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I have a digicam, but no mount. I've actually never been able to extract video from it onto a computer. I've tried using both the firewire and usb connections. :dunno:
I have been able to record short videos on my treo650 and transfer them via SD card to computer. I'll mix in some c16 fo sho Mark, but there's not really anymore room to turn up the boost. I've never dragged the miata before, though I used to drag GM iron at Atlanta Dragway on friday nights. I'm going to need to get moving on wiring up the launch control switch. |
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