Found 4 old rifles in a closet - Gun nut expertise is welcomed
06-16-2011, 09:24 PM
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Found 4 old rifles in a closet - Gun nut expertise is welcomed
Found these buried in a closet upstairs in the house I'm clearing out. I already found a pistol awhile back, now with these 4 we're at 5 total. I'm expecting to find more as we continue to search.
I didnt have my camera on me today so the photos are iPhone quality, which isn't the best. I tried to grab some shots of the markings and whatnot on the guns.
What do you guys think? Any of them look like anything special?
I didnt have my camera on me today so the photos are iPhone quality, which isn't the best. I tried to grab some shots of the markings and whatnot on the guns.
What do you guys think? Any of them look like anything special?
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06-16-2011, 09:37 PM
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probably from a collector 
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basically..british, italian and russian ww2 ****.
enfield 303, mosin 91/30...and some kind of carcano 7.35.....and a civil war musket..
"parker, Snow & Company of Meriden, Connecticut was a Civil War contractor for the Model 1861 U.S. Percussion Rifle-Musket. They made about 15,000 between 1863-64.
From the 8th Edition of Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms....and their values (page 467):
"Parkers' Snow & Co. contract; made by Parker, Snow & Company, Meriden, Conn., c. 1863-64; total quantity 15,000. Lock marking of eagle motif above U.S., and PARKERS' SNOW & CO./MERIDEN, CONN., to right of hammer; date at rear of lock, 1864. A variant of this musket bearing the same markings but with an 1863 dated lock is believed to be the product of the James Mulholland contract of 1861, of which only 5,502 were delivered. Although definitive proof is not available, these 1863-dated specimens can bring a premium over the regular 1864-dated arms by this company.
Values-----Good $800 Fine-----$2,500"
Other values:
mosin 91/30: 1-200
enfield: 2-300
carcano: 2-300
you might have lucked out big on the musket..fack i wish i can find **** like that.
.basically..british, italian and russian ww2 ****.
enfield 303, mosin 91/30...and some kind of carcano 7.35.....and a civil war musket..
"parker, Snow & Company of Meriden, Connecticut was a Civil War contractor for the Model 1861 U.S. Percussion Rifle-Musket. They made about 15,000 between 1863-64.
From the 8th Edition of Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms....and their values (page 467):
"Parkers' Snow & Co. contract; made by Parker, Snow & Company, Meriden, Conn., c. 1863-64; total quantity 15,000. Lock marking of eagle motif above U.S., and PARKERS' SNOW & CO./MERIDEN, CONN., to right of hammer; date at rear of lock, 1864. A variant of this musket bearing the same markings but with an 1863 dated lock is believed to be the product of the James Mulholland contract of 1861, of which only 5,502 were delivered. Although definitive proof is not available, these 1863-dated specimens can bring a premium over the regular 1864-dated arms by this company.
Values-----Good $800 Fine-----$2,500"
Other values:
mosin 91/30: 1-200
enfield: 2-300
carcano: 2-300
you might have lucked out big on the musket..fack i wish i can find **** like that.
Last edited by nasubi; 06-16-2011 at 09:41 PM. Reason: adding prices..
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06-17-2011, 06:37 AM
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probably from a collector .
basically..british, italian and russian ww2 ****.
enfield 303, mosin 91/30...and some kind of carcano 7.35.....and a civil war musket..
"parker, Snow & Company of Meriden, Connecticut was a Civil War contractor for the Model 1861 U.S. Percussion Rifle-Musket. They made about 15,000 between 1863-64.
From the 8th Edition of Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms....and their values (page 467):
"Parkers' Snow & Co. contract; made by Parker, Snow & Company, Meriden, Conn., c. 1863-64; total quantity 15,000. Lock marking of eagle motif above U.S., and PARKERS' SNOW & CO./MERIDEN, CONN., to right of hammer; date at rear of lock, 1864. A variant of this musket bearing the same markings but with an 1863 dated lock is believed to be the product of the James Mulholland contract of 1861, of which only 5,502 were delivered. Although definitive proof is not available, these 1863-dated specimens can bring a premium over the regular 1864-dated arms by this company.
Values-----Good $800 Fine-----$2,500"
Other values:
mosin 91/30: 1-200
enfield: 2-300
carcano: 2-300
you might have lucked out big on the musket..fack i wish i can find **** like that.
.basically..british, italian and russian ww2 ****.
enfield 303, mosin 91/30...and some kind of carcano 7.35.....and a civil war musket..
"parker, Snow & Company of Meriden, Connecticut was a Civil War contractor for the Model 1861 U.S. Percussion Rifle-Musket. They made about 15,000 between 1863-64.
From the 8th Edition of Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms....and their values (page 467):
"Parkers' Snow & Co. contract; made by Parker, Snow & Company, Meriden, Conn., c. 1863-64; total quantity 15,000. Lock marking of eagle motif above U.S., and PARKERS' SNOW & CO./MERIDEN, CONN., to right of hammer; date at rear of lock, 1864. A variant of this musket bearing the same markings but with an 1863 dated lock is believed to be the product of the James Mulholland contract of 1861, of which only 5,502 were delivered. Although definitive proof is not available, these 1863-dated specimens can bring a premium over the regular 1864-dated arms by this company.
Values-----Good $800 Fine-----$2,500"
Other values:
mosin 91/30: 1-200
enfield: 2-300
carcano: 2-300
you might have lucked out big on the musket..fack i wish i can find **** like that.
I'm trying to buy the fat one from him (3rd one in) but I don't know if he's going to part with any of them. Seeing that I cant sell guns on eBay I wont be making a commission on any of these anyways.
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06-17-2011, 08:47 AM
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probably from a collector .
basically..british, italian and russian ww2 ****.
enfield 303, mosin 91/30...and some kind of carcano 7.35.....and a civil war musket..
"parker, Snow & Company of Meriden, Connecticut was a Civil War contractor for the Model 1861 U.S. Percussion Rifle-Musket. They made about 15,000 between 1863-64.
From the 8th Edition of Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms....and their values (page 467):
"Parkers' Snow & Co. contract; made by Parker, Snow & Company, Meriden, Conn., c. 1863-64; total quantity 15,000. Lock marking of eagle motif above U.S., and PARKERS' SNOW & CO./MERIDEN, CONN., to right of hammer; date at rear of lock, 1864. A variant of this musket bearing the same markings but with an 1863 dated lock is believed to be the product of the James Mulholland contract of 1861, of which only 5,502 were delivered. Although definitive proof is not available, these 1863-dated specimens can bring a premium over the regular 1864-dated arms by this company.
Values-----Good $800 Fine-----$2,500"
Other values:
mosin 91/30: 1-200
enfield: 2-300
carcano: 2-300
you might have lucked out big on the musket..fack i wish i can find **** like that.
.basically..british, italian and russian ww2 ****.
enfield 303, mosin 91/30...and some kind of carcano 7.35.....and a civil war musket..
"parker, Snow & Company of Meriden, Connecticut was a Civil War contractor for the Model 1861 U.S. Percussion Rifle-Musket. They made about 15,000 between 1863-64.
From the 8th Edition of Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms....and their values (page 467):
"Parkers' Snow & Co. contract; made by Parker, Snow & Company, Meriden, Conn., c. 1863-64; total quantity 15,000. Lock marking of eagle motif above U.S., and PARKERS' SNOW & CO./MERIDEN, CONN., to right of hammer; date at rear of lock, 1864. A variant of this musket bearing the same markings but with an 1863 dated lock is believed to be the product of the James Mulholland contract of 1861, of which only 5,502 were delivered. Although definitive proof is not available, these 1863-dated specimens can bring a premium over the regular 1864-dated arms by this company.
Values-----Good $800 Fine-----$2,500"
Other values:
mosin 91/30: 1-200
enfield: 2-300
carcano: 2-300
you might have lucked out big on the musket..fack i wish i can find **** like that.
As for the carbines (Mosin, Enfield, Carcano), $200 each would be a fair price in the current market.
Whatever you do, do not succumb to the urge to clean and polish these weapons in hopes of making them more valuable. Once you wipe away the patina, you can kiss getting any real collectors to pay you more money. In "barn found condition" (IE: untouched), they are worth the most money....
Hope you find this helpful.
Bill S.
PS: Since you are in CT, you might want to check with Paul Ambrose as he is a well known reseller of antique and specialty firearms.
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06-17-2011, 10:18 AM
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My friend bought one of those mosens in working order for $180 I think. Walmart of all places. Or was it GI joes? Anyways, consistently the loudest gun at the range.
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06-17-2011, 11:57 AM
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^^^ That caption had me laughing pretty hard. 
Bill - Thanks for the added info and the heads up on the local guy. I'll see if I can get in touch with him and see if he's interested.
I learned awhile back to never clean something that's old and leave that option up to the buyer.
The owner said the old owner (now dead) was a historian at heart, so he expects to find a lot more of this stuff buried throughout the house. We're maybe 10% into the house and once that's finished we have 2 storage units to open up. To be fair though, for every 1 or 2 good finds I have, there's 100 things I throw away. This place is PACKED from wall to wall floor to ceiling. Long ways to go.....
Thanks again guys! I'm copying and pasting the info into an email for the owner.
Bill - Thanks for the added info and the heads up on the local guy. I'll see if I can get in touch with him and see if he's interested.
I learned awhile back to never clean something that's old and leave that option up to the buyer.
The owner said the old owner (now dead) was a historian at heart, so he expects to find a lot more of this stuff buried throughout the house. We're maybe 10% into the house and once that's finished we have 2 storage units to open up. To be fair though, for every 1 or 2 good finds I have, there's 100 things I throw away. This place is PACKED from wall to wall floor to ceiling. Long ways to go.....
Thanks again guys! I'm copying and pasting the info into an email for the owner.
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06-17-2011, 01:22 PM
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I just sent the owner the info you guys posted and I also emailed some photos to Paul.
Maybe I can make a commission on these things after all! lol
Although I do really want that one fatter one. I'm guessing its the enfield? 3rd one in on the 1st pic.
Maybe I can make a commission on these things after all! lol
Although I do really want that one fatter one. I'm guessing its the enfield? 3rd one in on the 1st pic.
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06-17-2011, 03:11 PM
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Suitcase full of $100 bills? The market for that is really soft right now. Let me call in a buddy of mine, and see if we can figure out what this pile of $100 bills is worth.
Must have been GI Joe's. I heard the one near where I used to live in Seattle closed down, sniffle sniffle. They used to have bricks of CCI Blazer .22lr for $4.75 on sale, and several milsurp rifles in stock albeit at prices that were considerably higher than I could get them with my C&R. That was a good store.
Must have been GI Joe's. I heard the one near where I used to live in Seattle closed down, sniffle sniffle. They used to have bricks of CCI Blazer .22lr for $4.75 on sale, and several milsurp rifles in stock albeit at prices that were considerably higher than I could get them with my C&R. That was a good store.
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06-18-2011, 12:33 AM
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GI Joe's closed completely, every location. Apparently everyone called the place "Joe's" (never heard it called that), and about 6 months before the shut down, they renamed every store "Joe's". Then they closed. The original owners/starters opened up GI Joe's at the beach, apparently the original location.
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