Want or do not want? Subaru BRZ STI
11-30-2011, 02:08 PM
#64
Don't love the look, it's certainly not beautiful, but it works well enough.
Consider:
FD RX-7 -- 11.2 lbs/hp (2830 lbs/252 bhp)
BRZ -- 13.4 lbs/hp (2689 lbs/200 bhp)
So we have a sports car that weighs less than an FD, with not quite as much oomph, but also won't blow up at 60k miles, either.
Not convinced yet?
In 1993 the RX-7 had a base price of $32,900, which adjusted for inflation would cost you around $49,000 today. The BRZ is expected to hit the market around $25,000.
90% of a stock FD's performance, with a motor that doesn't blow up, for half the cost? Yes please.
Consider:
FD RX-7 -- 11.2 lbs/hp (2830 lbs/252 bhp)
BRZ -- 13.4 lbs/hp (2689 lbs/200 bhp)
So we have a sports car that weighs less than an FD, with not quite as much oomph, but also won't blow up at 60k miles, either.
Not convinced yet?
In 1993 the RX-7 had a base price of $32,900, which adjusted for inflation would cost you around $49,000 today. The BRZ is expected to hit the market around $25,000.
90% of a stock FD's performance, with a motor that doesn't blow up, for half the cost? Yes please.
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11-30-2011, 03:59 PM
#66
HAHA, not sure if it will fit. I mean of course it will, they always do. But that would ruin the low center of gravity. Did we mention it has low center of gravity. Boxer engine placed low in engine bay makes for low center of gravity.
Gravity
Center
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Low
(go read the press release...)
I think 245s on 17x9" wheels will look and fit just right on this.
You think the bolt pattern is stupid 5x100? Or did they man up and use 5x114?
Gravity
Center
is
Low
(go read the press release...)
I think 245s on 17x9" wheels will look and fit just right on this.
You think the bolt pattern is stupid 5x100? Or did they man up and use 5x114?
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11-30-2011, 06:18 PM
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Honestly, it's not that bad looking. It's growing on me now that I see how miata-like it is. Looks like they took a miata, made the styling more aggressive and gave it a fastback. Then threw in a boxer motor because well ****, who wouldn't think that's neat.
I feel like I'm going to need one of these one day.
I feel like I'm going to need one of these one day.
I think this is something I'm going to work extra hard for. I want one of these, but I agree it needs some aftermarket help. Great updated platform to work with though, I think.
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11-30-2011, 06:25 PM
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I am hesitant, perhaps its just because I can't get the Scion image out of my head. or perhaps because neither of these companies are well known for making great handling cars (some STi gens. are an exception), but I can't really make any claims until I get into it and drive it.
At this point, the styling is really disappointing from the concept. The whole car is angular and shapely, then they changed the concept lights to these rounded funky things that came out of an 04 STi and it messed it all up for me.
At this point, the styling is really disappointing from the concept. The whole car is angular and shapely, then they changed the concept lights to these rounded funky things that came out of an 04 STi and it messed it all up for me.
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12-01-2011, 01:46 AM
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http://jalopnik.com/5864045/scion-fr...os-and-details
This will be for sale right before I get out of college... wooo
This will be for sale right before I get out of college... wooo
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12-01-2011, 08:00 AM
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Because you want to carry your tools and track wheels/tires in the car without dealing with a trailer.
Because you don't like convertibles.
Because an NC PRHT can push $30k.
Those are a few reasons off the top of my head why people might make that choice.
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12-01-2011, 09:25 AM
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Because you think Miatas are "gay."
Because you want to carry your tools and track wheels/tires in the car without dealing with a trailer.
Because you don't like convertibles.
Because an NC PRHT can push $30k.
Those are a few reasons off the top of my head why people might make that choice.
Because you want to carry your tools and track wheels/tires in the car without dealing with a trailer.
Because you don't like convertibles.
Because an NC PRHT can push $30k.
Those are a few reasons off the top of my head why people might make that choice.
I think this car would be really fun on the track too with a build N/A flat 6
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12-01-2011, 09:41 AM
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Food for though....
S2000: 237hp, 162tq, 2864lbs = 12.08 lbs per hp
ITR: 195hp, 130tq, 2639lbs = 13.53
RSX-S: 201hp, 140tq, 2840lbs = 14.13
Civic SI: 201hp, 170tq, 2877lbs = 14.31
GT86/BRZ: 197hp, 151tq, 2822lbs = 14.32
NC MX5: 167hp, 140tq, 2511lbs = 15.04
NB MX5: 142hp, 125tq, 2441lbs = 17.19
NA MX5: 133hp, 114tq, 2293lbs = 17.24
I'm more interested at this point learning what kind of suspension design it utilizes. Here's hoping for double wishbone all around...
S2000: 237hp, 162tq, 2864lbs = 12.08 lbs per hp
ITR: 195hp, 130tq, 2639lbs = 13.53
RSX-S: 201hp, 140tq, 2840lbs = 14.13
Civic SI: 201hp, 170tq, 2877lbs = 14.31
GT86/BRZ: 197hp, 151tq, 2822lbs = 14.32
NC MX5: 167hp, 140tq, 2511lbs = 15.04
NB MX5: 142hp, 125tq, 2441lbs = 17.19
NA MX5: 133hp, 114tq, 2293lbs = 17.24
I'm more interested at this point learning what kind of suspension design it utilizes. Here's hoping for double wishbone all around...
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