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Old 11-30-2011, 12:32 PM   #61
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Pretty sure it started out with the FD RX7 back in 92 ^^

I had one and my head was barely above the door.

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Honestly, it's not that bad looking. It's growing on me now that I see how miata-like it is. Looks like they took a miata, made the styling more aggressive and gave it a fastback. Then threw in a boxer motor because well ****, who wouldn't think that's neat.

I feel like I'm going to need one of these one day.

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Without the wing, lowered on wide 16's would look boss I think.
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Don't love the look, it's certainly not beautiful, but it works well enough.

Consider:

FD RX-7 -- 11.2 lbs/hp (2830 lbs/252 bhp)

BRZ -- 13.4 lbs/hp (2689 lbs/200 bhp)

So we have a sports car that weighs less than an FD, with not quite as much oomph, but also won't blow up at 60k miles, either.

Not convinced yet?

In 1993 the RX-7 had a base price of $32,900, which adjusted for inflation would cost you around $49,000 today. The BRZ is expected to hit the market around $25,000.

90% of a stock FD's performance, with a motor that doesn't blow up, for half the cost? Yes please.
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In for LSx swap.
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In for LSx swap.
HAHA, not sure if it will fit. I mean of course it will, they always do. But that would ruin the low center of gravity. Did we mention it has low center of gravity. Boxer engine placed low in engine bay makes for low center of gravity.

Gravity

Center

is

Low

(go read the press release...)

I think 245s on 17x9" wheels will look and fit just right on this.

You think the bolt pattern is stupid 5x100? Or did they man up and use 5x114?
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LS ruins nothing. If the LS doesn't fit, the chassis was built incorrectly.

End of story.
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:18 PM   #68
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Honestly, it's not that bad looking. It's growing on me now that I see how miata-like it is. Looks like they took a miata, made the styling more aggressive and gave it a fastback. Then threw in a boxer motor because well ****, who wouldn't think that's neat.

I feel like I'm going to need one of these one day.

Pretty much took the words out of my mouth.

I think this is something I'm going to work extra hard for. I want one of these, but I agree it needs some aftermarket help. Great updated platform to work with though, I think.
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:25 PM   #69
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I am hesitant, perhaps its just because I can't get the Scion image out of my head. or perhaps because neither of these companies are well known for making great handling cars (some STi gens. are an exception), but I can't really make any claims until I get into it and drive it.

At this point, the styling is really disappointing from the concept. The whole car is angular and shapely, then they changed the concept lights to these rounded funky things that came out of an 04 STi and it messed it all up for me.
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LS ruins nothing. If the LS doesn't fit, the chassis was built incorrectly.

End of story.
Hahaha

Now that I see it's the size of a NC I like it. Yay.
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I'll have to see what the after market brings for this car, but right now I don't know if I'd go for a BRZ over an NC or not.

New "Spy" shots of the FR-S:





I like it more then I thought I would.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:10 AM   #72
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The back of that FR-S looks like a cheap Aston Martin.
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^Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

The several houndred million dollar question is, would you buy one new over one of these?
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Not convinced yet?
No. The car is ugly as ****.
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http://jalopnik.com/5864045/scion-fr...os-and-details

This will be for sale right before I get out of college... wooo
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Blue or Black BRZ = Want


Skip to 2:25 and you can hear the exhaust.
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The several houndred million dollar question is, would you buy one new over one of these?
Because you think Miatas are "gay."
Because you want to carry your tools and track wheels/tires in the car without dealing with a trailer.
Because you don't like convertibles.
Because an NC PRHT can push $30k.

Those are a few reasons off the top of my head why people might make that choice.
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Because boxer motor enables low center of gravity
Because it has a lower center of gravity than a Ferrari

BECAUSE RACECAR
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Because you think Miatas are "gay."
Because you want to carry your tools and track wheels/tires in the car without dealing with a trailer.
Because you don't like convertibles.
Because an NC PRHT can push $30k.

Those are a few reasons off the top of my head why people might make that choice.
Pretty sure you're still going to have problems bring wheels in the car, based on it's comparable size to the NC.

I think this car would be really fun on the track too with a build N/A flat 6
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Food for though....


S2000: 237hp, 162tq, 2864lbs = 12.08 lbs per hp
ITR: 195hp, 130tq, 2639lbs = 13.53
RSX-S: 201hp, 140tq, 2840lbs = 14.13
Civic SI: 201hp, 170tq, 2877lbs = 14.31
GT86/BRZ: 197hp, 151tq, 2822lbs = 14.32
NC MX5: 167hp, 140tq, 2511lbs = 15.04
NB MX5: 142hp, 125tq, 2441lbs = 17.19
NA MX5: 133hp, 114tq, 2293lbs = 17.24


I'm more interested at this point learning what kind of suspension design it utilizes. Here's hoping for double wishbone all around...
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