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Old 01-27-2008, 05:56 AM   #1
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ok here it is....my boss has a friend who owns a shop in south pasadena..well he happends to have a 04 nb mazdaspeed totaled...my boss mention to this guy i own a miata...well he told my boss he is willing to sell me motor (6k miles on it), tranny, ecu, driveshaft, rear end, wiring harness and anything i would need for a swap into my 94 NA for $5000 (but ill get it cheaper by talking him down).....keep in mind i have a 94 NA basic model with 150k miles on it

now my concern is...is this a direct transplant? what else would i need if its possible (cluster, ignition?) if anyone could give me tips i would really appreciate it, thanks in advance
I can think of a lot better things to do with 5 G's
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:28 AM   #2
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Why doesnt he just swap in it himself...he prob knows **** about mechanics. I would do it myself, or get someone to help me and then put that 5 grand somewhere else maybe into the 94...what a dummy.
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He might reconsider if someone clued him in that there's no difference between a 99-00 engine and the MSM engine (other than the MSM prolly has fewer miles).
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There are a few differences in the MSM motor vs the 99-00 motor. Cams are different (I just looked at a set Friday), as well as a handful of variances. Not sure if the block has the MBSP (I'd assume it would), which the 4W won't have.

$5k is a bit steep for the parts listed, but you guys need to keep in mind the total comes with the engine assembly, clutch, 6 spd, 3.90 TorsenII with larger axles, etc etc. All with 6k miles on it. Leave the MSM ecu and harnesses, knock $1000-1500 off the price, and IMO it's an attractive package.
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I'll re-phrase: it's not $5,000 different.
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Mbsp?

edit: nevermind. i looked it up. http://members.aol.com/solomiata/MX5Engine.html
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I'll re-phrase: it's not $5,000 different.
Take away at least $2k for the 6 speed and MSM Torsen swap. Take away $1k for the MSM ecu, sensors, and harnesses. That leaves $2k for the motor with turbo. Haggle it down a little bit and it's pretty reasonable actually.

I would do something like make an offer at $3500, and tell them to keep the ecu, harnesses, and sensors.
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I wouldnt do it. I dont get it. If hes already got a miata spend a thousand to build his motor. Spend 1800 on the begi s kit and bam better
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I wouldnt do it. I dont get it. If hes already got a miata spend a thousand to build his motor. Spend 1800 on the begi s kit and bam better
That is my point exactly Loki
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I fail to find the article, but I remember reading somewhere the MSM had some low end forged pistons in it?
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Instead of calling him a loser, why not point out the error of his ways?
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I wouldnt do it. I dont get it. If hes already got a miata spend a thousand to build his motor. Spend 1800 on the begi s kit and bam better
doesn't address the clutch, trans, or rear.

Plus don't disregard the fact that the MSM rear uses larger axles.
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http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...81#post2914681
Did you guys see the check book racer on .net wondering why we leave our cars slow. God damn i am sorry i don't make 100K+ a year and have a 20-30K $ budget to fuel my car hobby, this guy is just plain silly.
And jason we did wether he listens or not we shall have to wait and see.
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doesn't address the clutch, trans, or rear.

Plus don't disregard the fact that the MSM rear uses larger axles.
Hes got a 94+ i thought? So hes already got the rear to handle the power. The ideal ratio? maybe not

I haven't heard of alot of hald shafts breaking.

And the 6 speed :( thppptt i wouldn't want it.
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Instead of calling him a loser, why not point out the error of his ways?
You can, its not my or magna's responsibility to point out the error of everyones' ways.
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Let me get my superhero costume on and save every idiot on the internet who is incapable of thinking for himself...

Oh thats right, thats the job of the m.net crew (to point people to the m.net market place)
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Let me get my superhero costume on and save every idiot on the internet who is incapable of thinking for himself...
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You can, its not my or magna's responsibility to point out the error of everyones' ways.
I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the OP. He spent the time and effort to start this thread, when he could have posted on m.net something like "consider that a BEGI kit will cost a lot less and will make more power". He called him a loser instead of ignorant, which would have been fair.
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I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the OP. He spent the time and effort to start this thread, when he could have posted on m.net something like "consider that a BEGI kit will cost a lot less and will make more power". He called him a loser instead of ignorant, which would have been fair.
Again it isn't anyones responsibility (use magna 's name if you want to talk to him, thats why its there) Its a open forum. Take it to PM if you have a problem.

Being ignorant makes you a loser.
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