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Old 02-11-2008, 05:54 PM   #1
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Haven't you all really wanted to just move to New Zeland? I know I always have.

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Nice to know its supported. Seriously, though, all the cool stuff happens down there. v-8 motorcycles, jet-engine beer fridges, front wheel drive hydraulic dirt bikes, pulse jet go-karts.. All those things were NZ first. What's not to like?
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**** i might go, with the housing market, ecomony, and presidential election, things could go very very wrong for this country
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My art teacher just moved there. He said it was a really nice place.
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i know 2 families who've recently moved out of NZ, and another that just moved there last month.

consensus: pretty. boring. not pretty boring, but just pretty. and boring.
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I've spoken with a couple Aussies about immigration issues. They said NZ was a jumping off point for a lot of undesirables to get into Australia. Since both countries seem to maintaing good relations, I guess a NZ resident can get into Australia easily. I guess NZ has comparatively lax immigration laws/enforcement.

I've met quite a few NZers and Aussies, great people.
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Spent a few weeks there last summer. Pretty place, but I could see how people say it could get boring.
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the land of the $80 FEdohc
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I did meet some pretty fun guys from NZ when I was in southern Baja. :-) If they are serious about getting some technically inclined people there it could be fun. Anyway, it's boring here too, isn't it?
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As a Kiwi now living in Aussie land I can't leave this post without adding my 2cents worth. I was born and spent my first 10 years living at the bottom tip of the South Island of NZ. It is a beautiful place to live. It is a very laid back, small town kind of place. Auckland and Wellington are the more populace places, but even they are fairly laid back.

Aussie land it about 4 hours flying time away. NZ and Aussie passport holders are able to move between countries and work in either NZ or Aussie land.

You should all come down for a visit. I visited Seattle last year for John Hewitts (M.net member) annual October Fest event....had a great time with the local Miata club members.

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don't forget all of the lord of the rings environment in your back yard!!!! cept for mordor, i don't think that was shot in nz
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Firstly, F**K you Abe :-(

Secondly thats just the jealous side of me speaking because I'M STUCK IN ENGLAND :-)

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My art teacher just moved there. He said it was a really nice place.
It is. Even in the middle of the biggest uggliest city we have you can find a quiet empty place with a nice view and some clean air. I'm in banbury in the UK, and one of the things I miss the most other than my friends, ute, and ex-skyline (fraudulently sold whilst away) is being able to find a place to go where no other bastard is. In particular, there is no where within a 2 hour drive from here that I can swim without A there being chlorine in the water and B having to PAY for it. In contrast, living 10m from the harbour bridge on the north shore of auckland you are 2m from this lake which is clean and most times deserted : http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...wloc=addr&om=0

I used to take a swim there whenever i got a chance.

All those things to the right are fairly clean and pretty beaches.

heres a snap or two from this one and the lake : http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...wloc=addr&om=0

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ofthelake8.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...hesunsmall.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...thecarpark.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...stakapuna1.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...hatmilford.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ameraatm-1.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...meraatmilf.jpg

not far from auckland is the coromandel http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...wloc=addr&om=0

a lot of these holiday pics are from the north and east side of it :

beware NO 56K (large ~20meg gif each)
scenery :
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...4/output-1.gif
fishing :
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...4/output-2.gif

and if you put in the effort there are lots of places like this to go and spend some time :

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...wloc=addr&om=0

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i know 2 families who've recently moved out of NZ, and another that just moved there last month.

consensus: pretty. boring. not pretty boring, but just pretty. and boring.
"boring" - lifes what you make of it right? what you consider boring might be considered an advantage by others. its a laid back place with a low population density and easy going carefree nature. its definitely not for everyone, thats for sure. dont go there for drug culture, night clubs, performing arts, flashy shows, endless concerts, etc because they will be spread more thinly than larger places. thats not to say such things dont exist, but there are less of them.

on the other hand, if you value clean air, soft clean water, somewhere to take a swim all year round (if you can handle the cold during winter (wet, not frozen)) and want easy access to the coast and like rugged scenery. its nice.

With regards emigration, it has to be said that the govt is hell bent on ruining the only really good thing we have as fast as it can : low population density. "Asians" are(were?) allowed very easy access and are causing housing prices to rise and traffic issues to swell. the asian issue is worst by far in auckland though, but it's spreading slowly and surely. i personally have a lot of friends from the far east, indonesia, china, taiwan, hongkong, korea and maybe more places, but i know for a fact that some of them are there to leach the cheap university education and bugger off to ozzy or back home. for an analogy its like dropping ozzy possums into the bush to compete with the flightless birds for food. the birds dont stand a chance. its that same laid back attitude (you could call it lazy, but "not driven" might be more accurate) that means that the uni lecture theatures are full of "imports" i dont joke, i used to play spot the white guy in class. in 300 seats, i might have been one of 5 or so. occasionally the lecturer would say something funny and i'd feel a bit of a twit being the ONLY one in the whole theatre laughing! "aaarh wot?" lol

Seriously though, the worst thing about NZ is staring back at you from the top right corner of that page with 1/2 an inch of makeup on and heavily photoshopped. I hope she put the same picture on the emigrate from Asia page to scare some of them away :-)

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I should also add that if you arent enjoying america, you may be in the wrong part of it. its pretty big and lowly populated itself. i suspect that if put in the right part of the US i'd be a lot happier than i am here.

I should also add that ozzy is (despite how much both countries citizens will deny it) very much the same. Very similar friendly people, similar emigration issues of a different region, cough-worse-accents-cough, much warmer and a VERY LARGE amount drier (which is already causing serious issues for them). Other than that its a bit more busy/driven in the city and maybe slightly closer to the way home is going (ie, downhill towards being like everywhere else in the world) but its still got heaps and heaps of open space and i think even lower density than home (but lower percentage of inhabitable space too).
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Probably should have read the whole post before having a rant...

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Seriously, though, all the cool stuff happens down there. v-8 motorcycles, jet-engine beer fridges, front wheel drive hydraulic dirt bikes, pulse jet go-karts.. All those things were NZ first. What's not to like?
Don't forget first manned flight!

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Jesus you must jack off to pictures of sheep in a New Zealand meadow :fm:
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:46 AM   #15
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Naaaaaah, but we've got a sense of humour ;-)



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Ok, so what sucks about it? How are the cops? Emissions laws? Are they pretty good about "well, you're not hurting anybody, so what's the big deal"? Health care? What's there for engineering types to do there?

Cold sucks. Mordor also sucks. Getting crowded I don't like, and I like to catch the occasional play - but really, very little of the time I'm bored is it for want of stuff to do.

Now, what about miatas? You have to get right hand drive versions? Anything weird to motorcycles there, or planes?

Definately I would go to play if I went. And I thought like (in aussie at least) dates are a bit more... casual. Is overtime like expected over there? What's better about aussie to make you leave?
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Ok, so what sucks about it?
hmmm, some people don't like the weather, ie, a fair bit of rain. i see it as a positive, ie, more skids with less tyre wear.

it sucks when your car gets taken to sth auckland to be stripped, but the only people i know of that have had that happen have done stupid things with their cars. and i see lots of "it got stolen" reports from other countries too.

oh, and probably the worst thing, that ozone hole you bastards put above us ;-) you get burned pretty quick in summer. same in south east ozzy too. other countries you walk around with your shirt off all day. in nz, unless you are brown skinned, you try that, you will end up in hospital.

probably other stuff, but i dunno what.

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How are the cops?
Strict on speeding etc, but only averagely fast cars, and not extreme or violent like your cops are portrayed to be (probably really are?)

eg, most of our cops DON'T carry a gun, there is an "armed defenders" squad that comes to sharp shoot you if you are a phyco. and a bomb squad too. they came for me once :-) i got away :-) (messing with fireworks in a shopping mall carpark too many evenings in a row)

speed limits are 100kph max. you can get away with 105 - 120 depending on your luck etc.

insurance is not compulsory, though i hear they are wanting to bring that in which would suck as i have lost my license once (bad luck, long story) and it'll be pricey for me. (but still WAY cheaper than here)

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Emissions laws?
currently being phased in for imports, but until a year ago there were none at all. at the moment safety tests include a visual smoke test and nothing more. new imports have to meet their orig specs and keep meeting them, but old stuff doesnt. (old as in before jan this year)

mods have to be "certed" which costs you about 500nz one off unless you wanna do more mods that need a recert.500nz ~= 350us

in terms of modding cars, you are WAY WAY WAY better off in nz than oz. WAY. no comparison. at all. some states in oz wont let you have a BOV at all.

plus our market is saturated in cheap jap cars (read jdm for you gay bastards that like that ****) so parts are typically pretty cheap (rb25de for 500 or so etc) my 3 fe3's cost on the average 250nz. one came with a car, the first two cost 80 together including other stuff (a diff, etc etc) ;-)

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Are they pretty good about "well, you're not hurting anybody, so what's the big deal"?
i dont understand the question.

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Health care?
i've never had to pay for any. not more than a 30 dollar admin fee or so. there can be waits for some things, but usually its not too bad. and you can go private if you want, or get insurance. all of which costs less than the states from what i hear as it needs to to be attractive when the free stuff isnt all that bad.

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What's there for engineering types to do there?
build super yachts/race cars/all the usual heavy and light engineering work etc.

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Cold sucks.
I am bare foot all year round. in the worst week of winter if i'm outside for too long they get a little numb, but the rest of me wrapped only in shorts and tshirt survives just fine all year round.

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Mordor also sucks.
you mean extreme heat? a hot day in summer usually wont crack 30C in ozzy 30C is on the low side in a lot of places.

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Getting crowded I don't like, and I like to catch the occasional play - but really, very little of the time I'm bored is it for want of stuff to do.
Its hard to find crowded outside of a rock concert or queen st. or maybe shitty shopping mall at xmas.

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Now, what about miatas? You have to get right hand drive versions?
but of course :-) my mate has one, rob posted pics of the exhaust job i did on it a while back :

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7191

see www.trademe.co.nz to see what people want for them and other bits and pieces.

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Anything weird to motorcycles there, or planes?
my cousin has a vtwin 1000 something or other that he wears tyres out on in 1000km or less. hes also got one leg :-) there are bikes. more importantly there are tonnes of mint roads to play on. other than that, again, what do you mean?

heres me playing on one in my ex-skyline with a girl from work giggling in the passenger side :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZbpq2a0-RM

same road in the ute in the rain :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxDAjVh47Ao

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Definately I would go to play if I went.
play in what respect?

**** i do :
skiing/boarding
fishing/boating
cars/modding/driving/track days
swimming/climbing/tramping
driving a lot more
more car modding
etc. name your hobbies, i'll see if they are readily available in jafa land (just another ******* aucklander)

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And I thought like (in aussie at least) dates are a bit more... casual.
hmmm, hard call. i never had any issues, but my sis says that kiwi girls are infamous with her english guy mates for being hard to score with. the english girls seem to be a bit promiscuous though, but that might be common world wide. most likely they are on the average harder to score. its just my sheer good looks that got me through ;-)

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Is overtime like expected over there?
fully depends on where/who you work for. if in doubt, assume more casual than average, except for the panty removal :-) my work experience has been very casual. all different types, casual stevedoring was unsurprisingly casual, retail drudgery was fairly casual, software dev was fairly casual (most devs showed up after 10am most days)

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What's better about aussie to make you leave?
i assume that was meant for that other guy? i liked ozzy when i was there, much the same as home, but a bit more busy and with more twangy accents and much much warmer and drier. all the ozzies i met while there were cool people. i've met a few duds in nz though. then again, i've heard of dud kiwis getting us a bad rep there too, so ...

if you were asking why i left, only temporarily to follow my good woman to the UK for a while. i'll be back (asap) for more fast fe3 vids!

hows that? i'm keen to see more yanks displacing asians :-)

plus, in about a year when i get back, you can sample the goodness that is my ~13.0 ute (untested, but must be close)

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If they need any Physical Security Specialists I would be over there in a heartbeat.
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you mean like a high tech body guard?

check the jobs available. i have no idea. i'd be over there in 0.000001 of a heart beat if i had a choice that didnt involve being single/finding a new woman to help me work on the ute and let me race her car round tracks :-) not so easy a thing to do i suspect.
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Hey Abe; or could come down here and stay only 2 hours away from Miami by plane


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Maybe: http://ec.4wc.co.uk/uploads/1140100388.jpg

Or how about this?: http://megsoftconsulting.net/sites/f...c38d8dee13.jpg

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