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Old 06-06-2016, 11:10 PM   #21
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My 4 year old Toshiba Satellite i7 just did the auto update to 10 a couple days ago and luckily everything seems to have gone fine so far. I had to turn down the screen brightness a bunch though 10 is so white!
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My only complaint about 10 so far is that I can no longer use my keyboard play/pause button with google music via chrome.
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Random observation:

It would appear that if you have a working, pirated copy of Win 7 Ult running inside a VM, and you upgrade it to Win10, the resultant Win10 install will continue to function, assuming a new license as Win 10 Pro.

Not that software piracy is acceptable or anything. Don't copy that floppy, etc.
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interesting, so windows 7 ult gets upgraded to 10 pro. Too bad it doesnt go to 10 enterprise, which is the actual good one with the level of control we're used to.
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interesting, so windows 7 ult gets upgraded to 10 pro. Too bad it doesnt go to 10 enterprise, which is the actual good one with the level of control we're used to.
Yeah, I was slightly annoyed by that.

Also, Netscape Navigator 9.0 does install and run properly under Win10-64 Pro, but good luck getting Java 1.5.0 to work.
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Yeah, I was slightly annoyed by that.

Also, Netscape Navigator 9.0 does install and run properly under Win10-64 Pro
Wut?
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Wut?
It's not by choice.

At the TV station, our main transmitter up on Empire is a Harris Platinum, which was a first-generation solid state VHF rig purchased in great haste immediately after 9/11, following the destruction of our main transmitter, and the death of our transmitter chief, along with the rest of 1 WTC.

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Built in 2001. The management interface is presented through a web-browser, which is, of necessity, connected to an embedded web server of late-90s design. To put it simply, modern web browsers do not work with poorly-designed 20 year old web servers.


Thus, my primary means of communicating with it remotely continues to be an ancient web browser, running inside Windows XP, running inside a virtual machine, running inside a TeamViewer Window.








I have yet to figure out a better solution...
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Must be slow af
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Must be slow af
The web server built into the transmitter is pretty slow. The OS are browser are actually quite zippy. Remember, this is 15 year old software, designed for a first-gen Pentium with maybe 256 MB, running on one core of a modern Xeon processor in 1 GB.


Also, VMWare includes full BSOD support.


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Joe, you are one of the few people who have my sympathy for being stuck with a worse work computer than mine.

At least ours run in house written softwear...
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Been using it for a few months now. It's mostly the same as windows 7, but with lots of annoying quirks. Off the top of my head:
-it is very hard to disable the "oh you stopped using the computer for 30 seconds, let me install an update and restart" behavior
-it is impossible to disable the "your computer needs updates" modal nag- it's always something stupid you don't care about right this second and it always pops up during a game or something
-the updating behavior in general is much more difficult to control than on 7- you need to manipulate a lot of complex group policy settings and even then it doesn't always do what you want
-every time you get a major update, it will add/reinstall a bunch of new spyware/adware type features that you have to disable
-microsoft basically uses windows update as a backdoor and it's only getting more obnoxious as time goes on. This is sort of reminiscent of the peppridge farm days when everything related to the internet was needlessly integrated into the IE browser
-I disabled cortana and all the other things that report back to microsoft, which also disables a lot of the basic functionality like search. See what I mean?
-the apps stuff is worthless and annoying so I disabled it all. It's like imagine the google app store if it didn't have any apps and was badly designed.
-a lot of design of the OS seem to be designed around a tablet experience, something microsoft sucks at. You can make it behave more classically without too much difficulty tho.
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-a lot of design of the OS seem to be designed around a tablet experience, something microsoft sucks at. You can make it behave more classically without too much difficulty tho.
My main gripe.
Win10 seems to work great on my PC. But this laptop / tablet / touchscreen device I have is just horrible. If they focused on making the tablet experience better, they failed. Miserably.
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Win10 seems to work great on my PC. But this laptop / tablet / touchscreen device I have is just horrible. If they focused on making the tablet experience better, they failed. Miserably.
They focused on making the desktop / laptop experience better, which they'd badly broken on Win8 while trying to make the tablet experience better.

So props to MS for recognizing that while touchscreen devices are really the only growth segment left in the PC world, full-blown Windows isn't the correct OS to be running on them. Something will happen.



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Minor discovery regarding "****, my start menu doesn't work now"...

Apparently context menu items (maybe as the result of an upgrade from win whatever to win 10) can become corrupt and start embezzling funds and break the start menu.

Did this:
[SOLVED] Right Click on Recent Items (Start Menu) Crashes Win. Explorer - Tech Support Forum

and my **** works properly.
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Minor discovery regarding "****, my start menu doesn't work now"...

Apparently context menu items (maybe as the result of an upgrade from win whatever to win 10) can become corrupt and start embezzling funds and break the start menu.

Did this:
[SOLVED] Right Click on Recent Items (Start Menu) Crashes Win. Explorer - Tech Support Forum

and my **** works properly.
If this doesn't work, MS released a Start Menu repair tool.

Microsoft's Start Menu Repair Tool Fixes Common Windows 10 Start Menu Annoyances
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If this doesn't work, MS released a Start Menu repair tool.

Microsoft's Start Menu Repair Tool Fixes Common Windows 10 Start Menu Annoyances
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Holy ****, this is awesome!
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Joe, you are one of the few people who have my sympathy for being stuck with a worse work computer than mine.

At least ours run in house written softwear...
I only just noticed this.

My work PC is actually a 12 core Xeon with 16 GB of memory, and some high-end Nvidia card. It's just that I have to use it to emulate an old machine running XP for one specific application which, fortunately, I don't have to access very often.

If all goes well, we'll have a pair of new VAX3D-16 transmitters up and running within a year, and the Platinum can be retired. Then I won't have to bitch about what a pain in the *** it is to connect to it until ~2030.

This is one of the weird, hidden problems in designing transmitters in the modern age. These beasts represent a massive capital expenditure, and we expect to get 15-20 years out of them. That wasn't a big deal back when the control systems were all switches and relays and analog electronics, but it becomes problematic when you introduce software. Ironically, it's easier for me to remotely control and monitor an analog transmitter made in the 1960s* than a digital transmitter made in 2001.

* = yes, believe it or not, I still occasionally work on one transmitter, a Gates FM-S-5G at WZZS-FM in Florida, which was manufactured in 1967 or 68. It's starting to get a little finicky, but that ole' bastard just keeps on running. I'd say that the station has gotten its money's worth out of it.
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If this doesn't work, MS released a Start Menu repair tool.

Microsoft's Start Menu Repair Tool Fixes Common Windows 10 Start Menu Annoyances
You have that backwards.

If the start menu troubleshooter doesn't work, try my way. Which is what I did.
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