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Old 10-12-2008, 02:45 PM   #1
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I've never heard of it before today. Randomly was put in front of me today and I checked it out. Not sure how I feel about the video, but I have a new look on certain things now. If anyone has seen it please comment.....I feel like I need to go buy a gun now and sell my miata to fund a revolution!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83847743189197

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seen that awhile back, its a good vid.
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Watching. So far, it's good.
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I've had a friend urge me to watch it. I guess I will now.
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Damn. I dunno what to say.
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Slept through the religion part. Woke up for the government and money part. I've got a few things I want to look into. Like the Amero? Never heard of that. Or the relations of the Top political leaders with the situations we're in. I knew of political ties between celebrity familys. I just didn't know about the banking system. Makes you want to think twice about your tax return. Or why the government allows itself to be pushed into debt with the American society at the hands of a few controlling entities.

The vision of one nation around the world is a bit far off, but I don't like the idea of some of the issues addressed in the video. I think the tracking chip is a reality of the near future, but I wouldn't be surprised if people were secretly subjected to an implanted chip during a regular surgery. I don't intend on running around with foil on my head just yet. I'll wait a few years first.
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if you want to look at the tax/money issue more, watch "freedom to facism" its like 2 hours long and also on google video.
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Watched it years ago, just watched it again. Good information to be had, but just like the mainstream media- do not believe everything you hear.

+1 on freedom to fascism, also check out Terrorstorm for some more interesting information.
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I don't intend on running around with foil on my head just yet. I'll wait a few years first.
A few years might just be too late..
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I think the tracking chip is a reality of the near future, but I wouldn't be surprised if people were secretly subjected to an implanted chip during a regular surgery.
LOL that's not how it's gonna happen, the media is gonna make it "cool" to have your credit card # embedded in an RFID under your skin. There was a trendy bar in Ibiza that did it as a "cool" thing for patrons.

England BTW is putting RFID tags on ex-cons now, and IIRC they're doing it in Iraq and China already.

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Slept through the religion part. Woke up for the government and money part. I've got a few things I want to look into. Like the Amero? Never heard of that.
Ex Mexican president admitted it in an interview on Larry King live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYGrn0hZlCQ

However, because of how widespread knowledge of the Amero is, it probably won't come to pass, in name. However it will be here virtually, with the following sold to the public individually:

- increased "cooperation" between the central banks of US, Mexico, and Canada
- 3 currencies' exchange rate pegged together
- US Dollar collapse (massive inflation is inevitable because of the massive increase in debt due to the No Banker Left Behind bailout), before the above pegging.

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Slept through the religion part.
Much of religion for the masses was designed to make people feel OK with being screwed (e.g. "The poor will go to heaven and the rich fat cats will go to hell"). Some of the Chrisitianity's mythology was borrowed from religions thousands of years BC. LOL even Ancient Egypt's priests were a cabal.

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Or why the government allows itself to be pushed into debt with the American society at the hands of a few controlling entities.
Government has a cozy relationship with central banks - the latter give the former a blank check, and the latter gets their wealth and power. With the current system, government gets to spend as much as it wants, and the money they spend isn't all from direct taxes. By inflating the money supply, they get to tax us all with inflation, a hidden tax.

Currency manipulations by bankers for their benefit has been around for thousands of years. It's funny that the bible and the koran both admonish fractional reserve banking which is one of the major ways that the bankers screw us.


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I don't intend on running around with foil on my head just yet. I'll wait a few years first.
LOL. It's just an ole boy's club that's massively corrupt, with government on their side. The history of mankind has always seen the rise of an elite. In the past it was royalty. After the advent of "popular democracies", they've moved backstage and are comprised of the wealthy bankers and corporate executives who wheel and deal behind the scenes and manipulate democratic governments in the process. Thus recently Congress voted to give money to the bankers instead of voting in their constituents' interests. And both Obama and McCain are backed by financial industry insiders.

It is the natural tendency of government to be collectivist, because of the nature of individuals who want to be in government.

There are also people who believe in collectivism, that spreading it is doing the right thing. Collectivism is the belief that the individual should be sacrificed for "the greater good". Unfortunately it's a myth.

Here is the history and philosophy of collectivism. This series IMO is very important to read. It makes certain things governments do crystal clear:
http://freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf
http://freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling2.pdf
http://freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling3.pdf
http://freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling4.pdf

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+1 on freedom to fascism, also check out Terrorstorm for some more interesting information.
i watched fabled enemies a couple of weeks ago, also a good flick
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A few years might just be too late..
The foil on the head thing was started by the government. Having metal on your head will actually have a bit of a focusing effect with any EMI around you. Think like a really crappy satellite dish with your head as the receiver.
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It was interesting and brought up alot of valid points and questions.

I think it did it's self a disservice with the religion talk in the beginning, which was inaccurate and was never really tied back in with the rest of the movie.

Jesus was not born on december 25, or during the winter. He was likely born in the fall.

I don't buy that the bible was gnostic writing. The new testament and especially the gospels do not follow any of the gnostic theology. Sure there are gnostic scriptures gospels and scriptures but they have some distinct differences and tones.

Did Jesus exist? More than likely, secular historians currently believe so,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

It's rare to for ancient historians to have first hand knowledge of the people they write about, many of them are dealing with 20th hand information as they are writing about things more than 100 years in the past. Though, Paul never met Jesus, he did meet some original apostles. That's at least 2nd hand information.

Was the story of Jesus exaggerated, probably. Don't get me started on Paul.
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