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Old 04-06-2008, 09:48 PM   #21
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Hey mach, is there any way i could get a copy of your map? or could you send it to scott so maby i could get some numbers like you!?!?!?
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here's my map:USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

keep in mind this map is for mspnp
my injectors flow 620cc so you'll probably need to adjust
my timing is fairly aggressive so be careful and listen for ugly engine noises

also this map is a still a little rough and needs touching up for starting, idle, and acceleration enchrichment, plus a few spots in the fuel table for smoothness
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:59 PM   #23
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Dan send me your log files....i betcha anythign you lost boost toward redline, otherwise it would have been similar...

you made more power from 2.5K to 4K and then your plots were identical till 5.2K where I suspect you dropped off more boost.
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:04 PM   #24
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Hold the phone...246rwhp at 9psi? Wtf?
yeah, where've you been? 9 is the new 15.

Incidentally, I posted my results from the VVT experiment on miata.net and you should all read it for the next time you do your timing belts.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=276072

big gains to be had on both ends of the rev range.
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:29 PM   #25
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yeah, where've you been? 9 is the new 15.
I guess I need to dial mine in and hope to top 200!
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my setup: greddy turbo, stripes "small fmic", tony 2.5" dp, 2.5" test pipe, 2.75" enuthuza catback. mspnp, 620cc injectors, my first run was 230rwhp but only got worse the more i tinkered with it...15psi tapering to 12 at redline, the drf file is in the ones posted. last time at the same dyno i did 244 rwhp but boost was holding 15psi all the way through. if i get my boost fixed i should be 250+.
My setup is going to be identical to yours when i put my car back on the road less the 620cc injectors. Do you think they are a little over kill? Paul is running i believe 550's and he has a 1.8L. I think the 460's should just right for what were running. I also reviewed your msq and your timing is more advanced than mine is. I may pull a degree or two across the board and pop it in and see how things go.
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my injectors are rx7 550cc injectors, but i sent them out to have them cleaned and tested and they're flowing 620cc/min. May be a bit overkill but right now i'm seeing 60-70% duty cycle. i think i'd be maxing out 460s, i'd like to see paul duty cycles.
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I actually just went through and made a hybridized timing map of the one Im running and the one in the .msq you posted. I took the highest advance numbers from each map and popped them into one single map. Take a look. Yours is pretty conservative in some areas but also about 4 degrees more advanced on others. Also by combining the two maps the mid range seems alot smoother. Here is a snap shot if you want me to post the .vex so you can give it a try just let me know.

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yeah, where've you been? 9 is the new 15.

Incidentally, I posted my results from the VVT experiment on miata.net and you should all read it for the next time you do your timing belts.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=276072

big gains to be had on both ends of the rev range.
Interesting stuff, now I want adjustable cam gears because I'll be doing a timing belt swap with the turbo setup swap during the next two weeks.
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I actually just went through and made a hybridized timing map of the one Im running and the one in the .msq you posted. I took the highest advance numbers from each map and popped them into one single map. Take a look. Yours is pretty conservative in some areas but also about 4 degrees more advanced on others. Also by combining the two maps the mid range seems alot smoother. Here is a snap shot if you want me to post the .vex so you can give it a try just let me know.
Such a poor idea, I don't even know where to start.
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this looks like a motor popping map...
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The highest i raised any timing number was about 4 degrees and it was in areas of the map that I wont ever hit like 500rpm and 10psi of boost. It not to far off from The timing map i was using. It looks relatively safe to me, just alot smoother...
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exported the values from winpep and jammed em into MLV to see my HP & TQ curves against RPM and boost. GEGO(green line) is horsepower. GAIR(red line) is torque.

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oh, and after closer examination of the log file the run was down in the 14psi range with a millisecond here or there into the 15's
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