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Old 12-13-2010, 07:37 PM   #1
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I took a little road trip yesterday and came back with a VVT motor. It's in the passenger seat area of my Saturn and I need a couple of you strapping young lads to help me get it out of there and into my garage. As much as I enjoyed the couple of funny looks I got in traffic this morning, the extra mass is sapping my fuel mileage and significantly taxing the Saturn's braking capacity.

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I need a minimum of 2 additional people and a maximum of 3 to lift that bitch. The seller and his roommates helped me load it up, but my neighbors are either too old to be lifting this, or too mechanically inept and likely to hurt themselves. Of course, this reveals the embarrassing fact that I cannot curl 300+ pounds. I do not have a hoist ATM, but we got it in there without one. Imma swing by HD and pick up some chain and a 4x4 post and that should make for an easier time extracting it.

This should take far less than 30 minutes. I know Brain, y8s, and wrxnova all live within 15-20 minutes of my house (2 minutes from 495 & Gallows Rd). Not sure where you other guys live. Are y'all available some night this week? Or this coming weekend? The sooner the better.

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Who did you pick up the motor from? I might be available this weekend to help move it if it is still in your car.
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Found it on craigslist, down in Raleigh. Bit of a drive, 4+ hours each way, but the motor is pretty much complete and only $400 so it was worth the gas money to go get it. I figure it would cost me that much for just the head and intake mani if I had to buy them from a parts supplier. I can also sell off a few things I won't be using like injectors, coils, couple other doodads to offset my cost a little.

Carfax shows this came out of an 01 that had 37,751 miles on it when totaled back in June. I turned it over by hand and everything feels fine. The wreck impact snapped the front water neck, but the area where it bolts to the head is just fine and in any case I'll probably be putting a freeze plug in there since I have a reroute. The two front power steering mounting bosses on the block were also broken, and the rear point of the three has a bolt broken off in it. The front bosses might still be usable and the bolt in the rear one can probably be extracted. Not sure I'm using the block right now anyway, will probably build my 94 block and use the 01 head, and probably the 01 MBSP and oil pan. Can possibly sell the rest of the bottom end to a track guy or SM racer who has no need for PS or A/C. Or who knows, I might keep it as a spare.
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Ahh ok, at 400$ that was a steal. I have a little less then that into my head.
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I'm going to throw in some comment here about how my wife and I moved a vvt long block by ourselves and suggest that possibly you and brain put together might be as strong as she is. we carried it from the curb to my shed.

so I'd wager two strong people could do it if it's in a handy carrying device (rubbermaid tub ftw)

oh

wait

fact checking myself:

(awesome twin-engine miata)

just a short block.

but still, that was before she was lifting weights.

where do you live?
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I'm at 495 & Gallows Rd, about 10-15 min from your place in clear traffic. Take 66 to 495, go 2 exits south, and I'm less than a mile from there. Will PM you the address.

My wife is not going to be much help. She is still lacking much of her core strength since our kid was delivered by c-section. Abs sliced into and all of that. I got video.

With the manifolds on, it has good places to grab. It's pretty easy to move with 3 guys once it's out of the car. The hardest part is getting it lifted up and over the door sill. To make that easier, we'll use chain between the two hoist points, and a long 4x4 wood post under the chain, then we can just lift the ends of the post from outside the car, move the motor 2 feet sideways then set it down. That should eliminate having people hunched inside the car where getting into a good position to lift was difficult. Once it's on the ground the rest is pretty easy.

The alternative would be to pull the head right now and remove the motor in two less-heavy parts. But that's more of a PITA than just getting a couple guys over here for a few minutes. I'm also not sure where the good places to grab onto the block would be. I didn't have the forethought to put any container underneath it. In fact my process for getting this was basically... see motor on CL, call guy that evening hoping he still has it, got confirmation from him around midnight, pulled seat out of Saturn at 12:30 am (thankfully I happened to already own the necessary E-torx sockets), got a few hours sleep and hit the road around 8 am. From the time I saw the ad to the time I returned home with the motor was less than 24 hours. Given more time I would have planned things better, but I've missed out on good deals in the past when I didn't jump on them immediately.
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You can call me. I don't have much planned Wed. I could use the exercise. I may be free Thur/Fri evening as well.

I think that a big container would be awesome. If you reminded me, I've got a dolly. So if we could hoist it from the seat to the dolly, then rolling wouldn't be so bad.

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y8s, we could lift that easy....then skip the gym and tune your car.
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y8s, we could lift that easy....then skip the gym and tune your car.
Just bench press the engine a few times.
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I'll need a few spotters....
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I'll need a few spotters....
are you still sick or can we hit the iron yet?

FW: I might be able to help one evening this week if you can time it so I'm on my way home from work. I'd probably be able to get there by around 6:30.
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I got video.
INterested.
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are you still sick or can we hit the iron yet?

FW: I might be able to help one evening this week if you can time it so I'm on my way home from work. I'd probably be able to get there by around 6:30.

We should go help him tonight instead of gym! but yeah i think i can do it.
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We should go help him tonight instead of gym! but yeah i think i can do it.
Whenever is good for you guys is good for me. I can leave work whenever. If you want to do it tonight then I'll make sure to head home in time to pick up some chain and shuffle a few things in the garage before y'all arrive.

BTW I have beer. My stash is somewhat depleted ATM but what's in the fridge is pretty decent.
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are you still sick or can we hit the iron yet?

FW: I might be able to help one evening this week if you can time it so I'm on my way home from work. I'd probably be able to get there by around 6:30.
Sounds like your wife should go over and help.
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Scott. How's Wednesday sound? We get Ed to come out and then we dine at Lost Dog or something. I miss my Yogi pizza.
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Scott. How's Wednesday sound? We get Ed to come out and then we dine at Lost Dog or something. I miss my Yogi pizza.
Wednesday is great. Would give me time to get stuff together a little better so I'm not all frantic this afternoon. Despite what it looks like here, I'm usually a thorough planner!

I'll buy the first couple rounds if we want to hit up Lost Dog afterwards.
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or we could eat near you if there is tasty vittles.
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**** you all. I want some lost dog. You should move the engine Saturday afternoon around 4:30ish and I will be there.
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