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Old 05-21-2011, 01:37 PM   #21
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You cant pass zo6's and GT3s on an auto cross coarse. Or do 100+mph drifts. See old video in my sig
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local guy on club sports and RS3. It is amazing his car is up there with the turbo miatas that are worked over, and running Hoosiers A6's on 15x9 wheels.
I just have to think those "worked over" turbo cars were either WAYYYY under prepped or driven by total newbs. At the Atlanta tour a few weeks ago the fastest street tired Miata (STS) ran a 40.603 on day one and a 38.763 on day 2. While a CSP Miata on Hoosiers went 38.804 and 36.421. You add some form of FI to Darby's CSP car and it's not going to slow down.
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the 1/2 places they run in texas eat tires worse then then a track day and there is more car/part ware and gas to buy for a track day but it's still way keep per min / per lap.
No doubt minutes/cash is cheaper. But regardless I can't afford it ATMO. Next year if I stay local find a job here, I will have the cash to track the car and eventually forced induction.
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I just have to think those "worked over" turbo cars were either WAYYYY under prepped or driven by total newbs. At the Atlanta tour a few weeks ago the fastest street tired Miata (STS) ran a 40.603 on day one and a 38.763 on day 2. While a CSP Miata on Hoosiers went 38.804 and 36.421. You add some form of FI to Darby's CSP car and it's not going to slow down.
This guy has been driving for ages. He stepped down from a lotus to run a miata. I know what i'm talking about.


Also they guy driving my friends car, who set FTD, is a national caliber driver, instructor at atuox, and road courses, and a miata owner. He is the kind of driver that will take an FTD car jump in and improve FTD by 3~4 seconds.

Also the birkems and sevens were having issues that day.
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This guy has been driving for ages. He stepped down from a lotus to run a miata. I know what i'm talking about.


Also they guy driving my friends car, who set FTD, is a national caliber driver, instructor at atuox, and road courses, and a miata owner. He is the kind of driver that will take an FTD car jump in and improve FTD by 3~4 seconds.

Also the birkems and sevens were having issues that day.
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I never said you didn't know what you were talking about. I just said the Turbo cars on Hoosiers that were getting raw timed by the NA car on street tires either can't drive or their car's aren't prepped. And you haven't said anything that makes me change my mind.
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You guys are all really getting far too butthurt about this FTD. It was a local event, not a national, or provincial event. Alot of the front runners where not there. Regardless I just wanted to post the video for fun not to say "these coilovers and tires will make anything look slow."

The people that i did beat worth mentioning is a
EK hatch with a type r swap, gutted, coilovers, 170whp, 225 nt01's driven by a good friend, and former formula ford driver.

My arch Nemesis a s2000 on 245 R1R's and coilovers. The guy has been autoxing for many years and also a damn good driver.

So can we all calm down?
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We can calm down when my AST's get here. I just hope they are 1/2 as awesome as I am hopping they are.
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I never said you didn't know what you were talking about. I just said the Turbo cars on Hoosiers that were getting raw timed by the NA car on street tires either can't drive or their car's aren't prepped. And you haven't said anything that makes me change my mind.
You can be ignorant. That is your prerogative.
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You guys are all really getting far too butthurt about this FTD. It was a local event, not a national, or provincial event. Alot of the front runners where not there. Regardless I just wanted to post the video for fun not to say "these coilovers and tires will make anything look slow."
Your good driving would definetly make me look slow. Awesome run.
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fyi - most track drivers started out ax'ing.
so most track drivers are atleast decent at it already.
i'm sure they're out there, but i've never met someone that tracks, that didn't ax first.
I ran about 60-hours at Hallett before I starting auto-xing 2-years later.

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There are also a bunch of people that have stuck it in ur mom's ***, and have never autoxed.
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I ran about 60-hours at Hallett before I starting auto-xing 2-years later.
You must be mistaken, it ALWAYS occurs the other way 'round, and NEVER as you state.
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I can't believe how controled the car was, that was a bumpy lot. Good job on the driving.

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Who gives a ****?!


lets talk about the Xidas.


next comment about autox vs. track gets a slap.
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You're such a ******* ******* AnnorexicRoadster. And also, the correct spelling of "Annorexic" is "Annerexic".
The correct spelling is Anorexic, I chose to spell it Annorexic because the cars name is Angela, so I just cut it down to Ann for short.

Secondly if your mother is in fact dead marcy I am very sorry for my statement. Seems that even in the realm of miataturbo.net their are boundaries, and I crossed one.


And yes Brain i was starting to get pissed of cause the thread was really starting to stray off topic. Kinda like very turbo vs super argument in threads that have nothing to do with it.

Back on topic though, the temperatures have finally picked up here and my RS3's are finally gripping like they should. Car has gone from being pretty loose to gripping like its on rails. With the tires working well, the Xida's just felt even better. Mid corner the car just doesn't get upset by anything. Will have more feedback when i go to a double header autox next week.

Its a old military airfield with 3 intersecting runways.
Coarse will be high speed (45-80 MPH)
Surface is rough and bumpy

Should be a very good test for this setup and I will report back with video of how it behaves.
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Glad to see the Xidas are working out for you as well as the RS3s. At the Mineral Wells Pro Solo I was doing much better on my Star Specs on my s2k than everyone else was on their RS3s due to the cooler temps. I wish there was an easy choice solution for the s2k as far as suspension is concerned. There are so many view points of Motons/Penskes/JRZs or Koni/Tein/KW V3s. Some think the $4k suspension is necessary for National level competition while others are taking podium finishes on revalved Konis Yellows. I don't know what to get...
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AST just purchased Moton. I'd get AST's with their new valving.
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AST just purchased Moton. I'd get AST's with their new valving.
Mind you who knows how long it will be untill moton parts make it into AST shocks, and even then AST stuff is hard to beat especially when they are valved and tested by AST with input from Emilio which knows a thing or two about miatas.
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Glad to see the Xidas are working out for you as well as the RS3s. At the Mineral Wells Pro Solo I was doing much better on my Star Specs on my s2k than everyone else was on their RS3s due to the cooler temps. I wish there was an easy choice solution for the s2k as far as suspension is concerned. There are so many view points of Motons/Penskes/JRZs or Koni/Tein/KW V3s. Some think the $4k suspension is necessary for National level competition while others are taking podium finishes on revalved Konis Yellows. I don't know what to get...
A multi-national champ friend went from Penskes to Konis and *gained* speed. They were revalved to get as close to the Penskes as the cheaper hardware allowed. And then in a big event with rain he prevailed. Since the Koni yellows have a much broader range of adjustment, he was able to soften them up more than his competitors on $$$ shocks could. In the wet that is a clear advantage. In the dry he didn't seem to have lost much time if any, however the ride quality sucked on the Ks compared to the Ps. Don't mean to denigrate KYs, they have much better dampers higher in their lineup.

What would have been even faster would be rain-valved Ps along with some buddies to help him quick-change when it started raining. Brand P tends to have a narrower but more precise and repeatable adjustment range. Not sure about the Xidas…how broad is their adjustment range? The Konis on the Z06 had around a 3 or 4:1 range.
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OP, do you have a rear sway in place? I ask because it's a little bitty looser than my car is. I'm on 750/450 around revalved yellows. Could be the extra 50# front spring bias my car has. On a longer course (Tour/Pro) you may find more speed with less rear action. We did at the NJ Pro this past weekend.
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