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Old 08-26-2016, 04:42 PM   #21
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I would love to replace my chrome mousetrap with a black BBFW NB2 roll bar Can I pay extra to not have the logo on it?
You can just order it without the decal, but do you really want to give up 6 RWHP and 14.2 RWTQ between idle and red line?

TF, fire ext kits are in stock and ready to ship, just drop me a line and we'll get it going
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Thanks Moti, I'll let you know. still debating between fabbing my own mount and buying yours. Budget is tight at the moment, spent too much money on track days haha
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So much to drool over, I love the work you do Moti, keep it up.
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I wish I had a track car in the works just so I could have you do the work.
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Imma gonna need a pic from the driver's perspective before I believe that a-pillar doesn't block visibility. Mainly because I'm too lazy to read your explanation though.

Did you weld in the rear subframe reenforcement plates or call the cage mounts "good enough"? Or were there even any cracks?
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Imma gonna need a pic from the driver's perspective before I believe that a-pillar doesn't block visibility. Mainly because I'm too lazy to read your explanation though.
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Did you weld in the rear subframe reenforcement plates or call the cage mounts "good enough"? Or were there even any cracks?
Since the stubs from the cage are welded directly to the connectors the loads are fed directly to the cage and not to the sheet metal anymore..
No cracks on that one yet, but they would've appeared sooner or later.
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Looked through all the pics that I took to see is I have a good driver POV and only found this one..
It's not great because my camera's lense isn't wide enough to show the passenger side and also shortens the viewing depth a bit too much, but you can get a very good look at the driver side A-pillar gusset and why I said it is basically invisible to the driver -



The gusset is aligned with the front leg from the driver's POV and so it does not take any more of the viewing field than what the leg itself does.

On the passenger side it's a little bit different because the leg is not as aligned to the driver's viewing point, but the part that is mainly hidden from view is the A pillar itself and the triangle that the door mirror stems out of.
I don't have a good pic of the passenger side, sorry.

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Top notch work, well done. I may have to keep that buck idea in mind for some future work. You had me wondering how the hell you got that curve in there from a single piece until I read your explanation!
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Thanks!
Don't underestimate the amount of work it takes even once you figure out the process.
Those two 3D curved gussets are extremely labor intensive, doesn't matter how good you are or how many times you do it..
I have it down to a science by now and it's still 20+ hours to fabricate, fit and finish a pair of those.
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Are you guys interested seeing what we're doing in the shop other than just Miata stuff?
Yes. I like pretty pictures of pretty crash cages. I'll happily view more. Nice work.
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