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Old 06-18-2012, 11:06 PM   #41
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what you havent taken 3,000psi worth of fuel to the fingers/face?
The standard medical treatment for accidental subcutaneous injection of fuel to the arm or hand is amputation in roughly 50% of cases.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:06 PM   #42
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Where is the V6 CX-9 diesel that I can easily tow my track car with? Compete with the Explorer, and crush it.
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Your options were an awesome looking, small SUV or the ugliest pug-nose car on the market, lol. The Mini is also nowhere near reliable.
so far it's great. i have a warranty. and in spite of realiability, the resale on the mini is about double the mazda.

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Well...the diesel may change cars if the EPA doesn't get involved.
bad news for you on that front. the part of the WHO called "The International Agency for Research on Cancer" just reclassified diesel emissions as carcinogenic. like 2nd hand smoke.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/...,7726895.story
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:08 AM   #44
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so far it's great. i have a warranty. and in spite of realiability, the resale on the mini is about double the mazda.



bad news for you on that front. the part of the WHO called "The International Agency for Research on Cancer" just reclassified diesel emissions as carcinogenic. like 2nd hand smoke.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/...,7726895.story
The GOP can write the wrongs of the WHO.
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bad news for you on that front. the part of the WHO called "The International Agency for Research on Cancer" just reclassified diesel emissions as carcinogenic. like 2nd hand smoke.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-diesel-engine-exhaust-linked-with-risk-of-lung-cancer-20120612,0,7726895.story
Alarmist garbage. If the International Agency for Research on Cancer is "the world’s most prestigious cancer research group" as asserted, how is it that I have been an oncology researcher for 13 years and never heard of them until now? Granted, I'm not on the environmental epidemiology side of things, but I do read and "world's most prestigious" is more than stretching it. From what I can tell they are neither a major regulatory agency nor a funding agency, so their findings are of limited impact.

Their list of "Category 1 (confirmed) carcinogens" also includes birth control pills, which do in fact increase cancer risk, yet millions of women are allowed to swallow this horrendous poison to murder babies every day! Don't ever go outside without slathering yourself in SPF 90 because UV radiation is also on their list. Also, ethanol. Sonofabitch, it looks like I have to stop drinking beer. We're not just talking about a little cirrhosis here. It's CANCER.

There's some pretty nasty ---- in Category 1 though. High risk but obscure chemicals, some radioisotopes, etc. That it took so long for them to reach a conclusion regarding diesel particulates, which are ubiquitous and inhaled at low levels by a few hundred million people, is a good indicator that it's not that hazardous for the population at large. They relied entirely on one study of heavily exposed miners who were breathing diesel soot in confined underground spaces 40 hours a week for 5+ years. The IARC glosses over that little detail and the L.A. Times ignored it completely while insinuating that the general public should be concerned about truck exhaust as they cruise down the highway. Absolute garbage.
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Dear mt.net,

everything causes cancer. humans ARE cancer.

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I find it kinda funny: after reading this thread at work yesterday I stop by our shop on the way home and my dad has a 2007 Mazda3 with an engine that just "stopped working" after like 50k of regular driving.

We've still no idea why it just up and died, but a compression test pretty much says its toast.
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I leased a 2012 Mazda 3 Skyactiv I Touring for my wife. Overall we can't complain. Great fuel economy. Transmission shifts fast and smooth. Fuel economy is on the money. Drives nice and handles really good. Its a little cramped up front for me but perfect for her. I also find the cloth seats about as comfortable as a medieval torture device on long drives. Its a bit gutless from a stop, but not too terrible once its moving. Overall its a great little commuter car. Best of all the lease and insurance is cheap, so piece of mind for me since she doesnt have to drive a used car.

She wants the CX-5 now so will probably pick that up once the lease is up or do an early swap depending on the terms.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:35 PM   #49
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Alarmist garbage.
I don't doubt that for a second. I just heard/read it. And I'm sure someone else did too. And I'm sure they will call the EPA and ruin Hustler's plans for a diesel CX-5.

I know there was research into some developing countries with respect to the GRADE of diesel they use having much worse particulate and other emissions and the vehicles have little to no emissions controls anyway.
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Good chance I will trade my 2012 golf tdi for a 2014 mazda skydrive tdi.
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^^^ My father bought a 2012 Passat TDI with the DSG. He sees upper-40s highway mpg which is significantly better than its EPA rating.
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^^^ My father bought a 2012 Passat TDI with the DSG. He sees upper-40s highway mpg which is significantly better than its EPA rating.
ECU is telling me 41.2 mpg over 6k miles. Waiting till the ECU is cracked so I can chip and straight pipe from the dpf.

Didn't do dsg because they cost a butt load to fix and you have to pay $500 more to chip the auto and it really don't work well =/
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I find it kinda funny: after reading this thread at work yesterday I stop by our shop on the way home and my dad has a 2007 Mazda3 with an engine that just "stopped working" after like 50k of regular driving.

We've still no idea why it just up and died, but a compression test pretty much says its toast.
...and this is why I sold mine at 55k. It's not exactly a package designed for longevity, especially running 21-22 psi as I was.

Also, I'm not sure while so many of you are getting your panties in a twist over 3000 psi of fuel pressure. As others have stated, it's been done in the diesel world for decades now and is also very common in modern direct injection engines. My 'Speed 3 would run at 1600-1800 psi under boost ... they use a mechanical pump off the block to bump pressure so only a foot or so of hard line is actually seeing 3000 psi. I assume the line off the tank is seeing 'standards' fuel pressures.

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Skyactive diesel, 14.0:1 compression, aluminium block
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noticed the comments early on about the di pressures -
the speed 3/6 cx7 used di back in 07 - those engines idled at about 1k psi and did sustained 1700-1900 at wot -
modded hpfp would let you keep close to 2k at wot
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I has it!
Feels much more like a normal gas engine and does not fall flat on its face at 3k rpm like all the euro diesels do. Trying to treat it nice since it`s new and all but it revs easily to 5k and I can imagine this being a fun engine in a smaller RWD car than my AWD CX-5. (Allthough I`d rather have a gas turbo myself)

Are the old RX-7 Fd3s twins as nice and compact as this?


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Old 01-25-2013, 01:45 PM   #57
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Wow. I personally would prefer a simpler single-turbo setup, but it sounds like the powerband characteristics are spectacular.

Hope we get them here.
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Man that will be a pain in the **** to replace, that turbo is at the back near the firewall.
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Diesel has always been the way to go, always!!!
Look at every other market in the world, the USofA is the only place where they are frowned upon...wonder why?
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If Mazda does not put this in a CX5, then they are truly stupid. I would buy an AWD model with the diesel instantaneously.
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