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Old 12-20-2008, 07:34 AM   #1
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Default Hello, and who built this turbo manifold?

Good morning, had a JRSC M45 in my 1994 "R", and am interested in going turbo.

I write through bleary eyes after searching 155 threads returned under "manifold" for the builder of this one (I fully expect brutality if I've done the attachment wrong). Could someone direct me to it's builder, or build thread?:
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Old 12-20-2008, 09:25 AM   #2
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“Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.”
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This is the proper quote.
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Thanks Hustler, I knew it was Hemingway, but didn't put it in quotes because I wasn't certain of the exact phrasing.

I didn't get the lambasting I was expecting having read other newbie posts. You people going soft during the Holiday season?

Any ideas on who built the turbo manifold?
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Thanks Hustler, I knew it was Hemingway, but didn't put it in quotes because I wasn't certain of the exact phrasing.

I didn't get the lambasting I was expecting having read other newbie posts. You people going soft during the Holiday season?

Any ideas on who built the turbo manifold?
Well, you stated you searched. And there is so much you have to filter through. You would probably never find it.

I am guessing. merely guessing. Turbo Tim or Begi. There are from time to time gifted individuals that builds there own masterpieces, But I know tim could do it. But he replys to cost as in. " If you ask it is too much".

I'm old school. I always need prices. But seems helpful and a good guy. And his parts produce good numbers.

I would pm him and see if it was his. He might know anyway..

You will like the turbo. Much more power, with the right turbo.

Good Luck!
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Old 12-20-2008, 09:49 AM   #5
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that looks like a miata motor, but mos def not in a miata. I try to save the lambastings for people who deserve it.
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I vaguely remember someone posting a link to that manifold to make a joke.
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This is the proper quote.

Actually it's a proper quotation, quote is a verb.
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as far as the manifold, i think its the FE nissan truck...
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i find that manifold very pretty
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on second thought,

its down right sexy

and i think it likes me
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Not quite a miata motor.... FE3 in a truck with a Holset turbo.

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Mystery solved, thanks crashnscar!

I agree urgaynknowit it's very attractive, not sure it likes me, but it might.

I've got to believe when you put the weight of the turbo low like that, it can only do good for CofG on the car.

Wish I had some mad welding skillz yo.

Thanks for all your help, turns out I didn't need you all to lambast me, my wife looked over my shoulder and saw the pic of our son on my post and.....I took the pic off.
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Isnt that truck a project of one of the guys who work on the development team for megasquirt?
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Mystery solved, thanks crashnscar!


Today 01:56 PM crashnscar Not quite a miata motor.... FE3 in a truck with a Holset turbo.

Today 11:28 AM Braineack as far as the manifold, i think its the FE nissan truck...
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I've got to believe when you put the weight of the turbo low like that, it can only do good for CofG on the car.
and I've got to believe that 30 lbs of manifold that high in the air have got to negate any effects of lowering a turbo.
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You're right Braineack you were first, Happy Kwanzaa.

Good point y8s, one would have to weigh the tubing to make sure it wasn't a "wash".

Thanks again all
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and I've got to believe that 30 lbs of manifold that high in the air have got to negate any effects of lowering a turbo.

kinda like his wategate boost source routing?
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Well, you stated you searched. And there is so much you have to filter through. You would probably never find it.

I am guessing. merely guessing. Turbo Tim or Begi. There are from time to time gifted individuals that builds there own masterpieces, But I know tim could do it. But he replys to cost as in. " If you ask it is too much".

I'm old school. I always need prices. But seems helpful and a good guy. And his parts produce good numbers.

I would pm him and see if it was his. He might know anyway..

You will like the turbo. Much more power, with the right turbo.

Good Luck!

hehehe I'm trying to get less assholish I swear. 'Tis the time of year I guess. And thanks for the compliment

Not mine and I don't know who built that one, sorry. Nice turbo placement but IMHO too much pipe.

EDIT: I should read thru the entire thread before posting...
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Why did no one complain about the shitty 1:30am welding job and the fact the top of that back middle runner was cut and joined because it didn't line up otherwise? :-p

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and I've got to believe that 30 lbs of manifold that high in the air have got to negate any effects of lowering a turbo.
NO WAY!! The manifold is WAY lighter than the turbo. Also, the heaviest parts of the manifold are the two flanges and the brace between them, all of which are down low. There were a number of motivations for building it like this.

Prerequisites were :
  • Excellent top end flow
  • Equal length

In order of priority (vaguely) :
  1. Simplicity of build - piece of **** to do it like this, minimal skill required
  2. Short/Straight exhaust - minimal bends to the exit
  3. Physical strength - down low and close in = less stress on braces etc
  4. Low COG (in a truck?? LOL, yes!) - aiming for 50/50 weight split too
  5. Looks - can't argue with that :-)

Down sides were :

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Nice turbo placement but IMHO too much pipe.
Which I don't consider to be a big deal. 12psi from a 550hp turbo on a 2.0 at 4krpm isn't bad IMO. Especially not when it's barely tuned at all.

As for this...

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kinda like his wategate boost source routing?
Not sure if you are referring to the fact it's hooked up wrongly, or the tube is long. The latter I don't care about. The former is downright dangerous and wrong and will be fixed within hours of landing in NZ again.

About the manifold :

I hand filed the insides of the merger and ports to be smooth and flow well. Here is the down pipe, a few people referred to it as "out pipe" due to lack of bends :

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...4/100_4271.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...4/100_4272.jpg

Glad you like it anyway :-)

Fred.
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Thank you Fred, I followed the link at the bottom of your post and read all about it.

"ex mani on the Persian rug in the lounge just after completion." I love it, my wife would $hit a brick if I put a car part on the rug, but I giggled silly when I saw that pic.

Are you from NZ? I worked in Johannesburg in 2000 for a year, watched an RSA vs. AUS cricket match, all 8 hours of it from a box seat there.

Thanks again,
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Are you from NZ?
Yep, sure am, woulda thought this pic was a give away :

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...ld-support.jpg

Most welcome.

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