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Old 10-02-2015, 10:35 AM   #41
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Sorry about your drilled and slotted rotors.


2560 sized is awesome for your motor. The turbo the MK Turbo kit comes with would also be awesome.
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This might sound stupid but aren't those good?
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Drilled and slotted rotors? Rarely. They're certainly more expensive and look sweet, though.
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This might sound stupid but aren't those good?
For 'street', you should fine.

Ceramic is prob overkill... bc street.

Drilled discs are known for failure due to high heat on the track.

I suggest you read - https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...estions-81577/
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No need to read that.
Just do whatever Ben and I tell you.
You can be our special little boy.
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Old 10-02-2015, 11:21 AM   #46
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As much as I've learned from you two I'm in.
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Ok so... Trackspeed Dynapro front kit. Sport brake rotors and brackets in the rear with 1.8 calipers.

PF pads. Done!
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I'm going to go ahead and assume you will have me do A LOT of non speed related items before I try and go fast.
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Ok so... Trackspeed Dynapro front kit. Sport brake rotors and brackets in the rear with 1.8 calipers.

PF pads. Done!
How are your rears holding up? I was just going to suggest cobalt pads.
Curly's car seemed to brake just fine, and I think that's all he's running.
I'll double check though.

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I'm going to go ahead and assume you will have me do A LOT of non speed related items before I try and go fast.
It's generally a good idea to learn/ upgrade to be able to control the car safely at the speeds it's capable of first before adding power.
You would be surprised how much "faster" good supporting mods will make you.
That being said, if it's mostly a street car, do whatever.
I have certainly had some fast, uncontrollable vehicles in my day.
Just be safe on the street.
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Not necessarily. You can do whatever you want. Nobody's first fast car is perfect.
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It seems I need to look at/ ride in a properly built miata. I don't like wasting money which is why I haven't bought much for my car.
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Just in case that a misinterpreted I meant I want to properly build my car for mostly street but an occasion track day when possible.
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What days are you free this week (you too Ben)?
I'm coming down to Indy to pick up parts for a truck project.
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I'm free tomorrow, week days after 4:30 except for tuesday, and all next weekend.
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Ceramic pads usually stop much worse but they don't dust much and are designed for the street.

Drilled and slotted rotors are a waste. They usually explode from heat and stress cracks at the track. Just getting a proper heat range pad for the track will make a huge difference. Rotors are a consumable item and therefore need to be cheap.

The Trackspeed Dynapro kit mentioned above is good. I am a fan of the V8Roadsters 11.75in kit with the Dynalites or Dynapros in front and the upgrade to sport rotors with stock calipers and the spacer bracket from 949Racing in the rear. I really like the PFC11 pads and the Cobalt XR2s, either one. But you will be able to get by with stock brakes and PFC11 or Cobalt XR2 or XR3 unless you are running R-compound tires. You don't want too much braking authority for your choice of tire or you will flatspot the crap out of them.

And yes, a 2560 or the small T3 that MK Turbo is using with their kits will be ideal for you. I would personally buy brakes, suspension, stronger clutch, bigger radiator and rollbar prior to looking at turbo kits. You won't be able to enjoy the power otherwise. Twice as much power as stock creates twice as much heat that needs to be dealt with and the stock radiator is barely enough for stock power. Braking energy required is squared when speed is doubled. Little increases in speed make braking require more effort and much more heat is generated. High temp range racing pads are a must for even a stock Miata at the track.

You get the idea.
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I've got a somewhat full weekend... working tomorrow morning, then Crystal has her first weekend off in about... a year? So we're hanging out since we see each other about once a week.

Free monday-thursday afternoon/evenings next week. Friday is prepping for trip. Saturday morning i'll be in San Diego, then i'm going to drive 2100 miles home in time for work on Monday.
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Ceramic pads usually stop much worse but they don't dust much and are designed for the street.

Drilled and slotted rotors are a waste. They usually explode from heat and stress cracks at the track. Just getting a proper heat range pad for the track will make a huge difference. Rotors are a consumable item and therefore need to be cheap.

The Trackspeed Dynapro kit mentioned above is good. I am a fan of the V8Roadsters 11.75in kit with the Dynalites or Dynapros in front and the upgrade to sport rotors with stock calipers and the spacer bracket from 949Racing in the rear. I really like the PFC11 pads and the Cobalt XR2s, either one. But you will be able to get by with stock brakes and PFC11 or Cobalt XR2 or XR3 unless you are running R-compound tires. You don't want too much braking authority for your choice of tire or you will flatspot the crap out of them.

And yes, a 2560 or the small T3 that MK Turbo is using with their kits will be ideal for you. I would personally buy brakes, suspension, stronger clutch, bigger radiator and rollbar prior to looking at turbo kits. You won't be able to enjoy the power otherwise. Twice as much power as stock creates twice as much heat that needs to be dealt with and the stock radiator is barely enough for stock power. Braking energy required is squared when speed is doubled. Little increases in speed make braking require more effort and much more heat is generated. High temp range racing pads are a must for even a stock Miata at the track. As well as just purchased ms2.

You get the idea.
Brakes are definitely noted. I have a larger radiator due to a thermostat blowing apart after a day of racing in the past. I currently have a friend fabbing a roll bar for me modeled after a hard dog. Also waiting on my fm happy meal which is on back order and have tien street advanced coilovers but thats really it as far as suspension in concerned.
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It sounds like you are off to a good start.

Concealer and Monk will be useful idiotsguides on your journey. They know what works and what fails on Miatas.
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