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EO2K 10-25-2013 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Impuls (Post 1066890)
EO2K those gauges are interesting. I wonder if lc1 is required

VEI Systems -- Intelligent Vehicle Instrumentation -- Products: Instruments <--Direct linky to AFR gauge.

Yes, some sort of external controller is required. I'll be using an LC-1 and I have a VEI boost/afr gauge in an orange that very closely matches my cluster. It will be installed in place of my useless NB oil pressure gauge once I finish my cluster project.

I believe VEI offers Blue, Red, Orange, White and Green even though they are not listed on the website.

Impuls 10-25-2013 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by southernmx5 (Post 1066895)
Set your lambda averaging lag factor to 100 (raw signal) in TS, and then observe the shittiness of your wideband and tune.

Thanks for the shit tune comment.
Fuck it, I'll make a video checking the voltage. So sick of this.

Impuls 10-27-2013 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Impuls (Post 1066927)
Thanks for the shit tune comment.
Fuck it, I'll make a video checking the voltage. So sick of this.

I deliver. Try not to be distracted by my very sensual hairy manly man legs.


Shortly after this I fixed some Accel Enrich and took a ride to tune out some very rich spots. Was a very productive ride. Also, I'm pretty sure I got my first "gay" or "fag" comment since the motor build, from some kid at a light. He(passanger) waited till he got the green turn light and yelled something at me). Stupid wanna-be florida rednecks... I got it on GoPro too! Still dunno what he said though.

mx594m 10-28-2013 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by southernmx5 (Post 1066895)
Set your lambda averaging lag factor to 100 (raw signal) in TS, and then observe the shittiness of your wideband and tune.

Okay Kevin

I looked for a way to set the lambda averaging lag factor in my TunerStudio application, but such a setting was not readily apparent.

So can you explain where that adjustment is made.

Thanks

Impuls 10-28-2013 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by mx594m (Post 1067655)
Okay Kevin

I looked for a way to set the lambda averaging lag factor in my TunerStudio application, but such a setting was not readily apparent.

So can you explain where that adjustment is made.

Thanks

Basic settings>General/Lags

noname4me 10-28-2013 10:27 PM

This may or may not help, but some ideas to consider/try:

1) When you checked the O2 voltage at the D15 plug, what did you use as a ground for the voltmeter? If you didn't the first time around, try grounding the voltmeter at the ECU to give you an indication of whether a grounding problem could be in the picture. If you have a constant delat in the AFR between the gauge and the ECM, then that is an indication that the gauge isn't grounded at the ECM, which is best practice.

2) I would recheck voltage at the DB15 with an analog voltmeter. The digital voltmeter could have some smoothing applied to the output to make it "easier" to read or could sample at a low rate (no idea how digital voltmeters are designed). A simple analog voltmeter should show more of a "real time" view. An actual scope would be best of course or a voltmeter with a fast, known sampling rate. (real EE please chime in)

3) Crack the MS case open and see if you have let the magic smoke out :-)

Good luck!

mx594m 10-28-2013 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=Impuls;1067665]Basic settings>General/Lags[/QUOTE

I am using TunerStudio MS 2.0.8 and see no such adjustment under Basic settings

Impuls 10-29-2013 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by noname4me (Post 1067685)
This may or may not help, but some ideas to consider/try:

1) When you checked the O2 voltage at the D15 plug, what did you use as a ground for the voltmeter? If you didn't the first time around, try grounding the voltmeter at the ECU to give you an indication of whether a grounding problem could be in the picture. If you have a constant delat in the AFR between the gauge and the ECM, then that is an indication that the gauge isn't grounded at the ECM, which is best practice.

2) I would recheck voltage at the DB15 with an analog voltmeter. The digital voltmeter could have some smoothing applied to the output to make it "easier" to read or could sample at a low rate (no idea how digital voltmeters are designed). A simple analog voltmeter should show more of a "real time" view. An actual scope would be best of course or a voltmeter with a fast, known sampling rate. (real EE please chime in)

3) Crack the MS case open and see if you have let the magic smoke out :-)

Good luck!

Damn that magic smoke! haha
When I checked the voltage I used chassis ground, DIY suggested moving the ground to the head/ engine instead of the chassis so I'm going to move the AFR and ECU ground the the head see if that improves anything.

I'll use the ECU GROUND pin next time I check the voltage. Just gotta find someone with an analog voltmeter.
I've also been told when grounding the AFR I don't want to do it to another ground of a sensor or anything (like the grounding bold on the back of the head)



Originally Posted by mx594m (Post 1067691)

Originally Posted by Impuls (Post 1067665)
Basic settings>General/Lags

I am using TunerStudio MS 2.0.8 and see no such adjustment under Basic settings

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Also, this may be unrelated but my Tach in my gauge cluster read different from what TS tells me. At idle(still a little high) of 1200rpm in TS my gauge cluster reads 900 but revving to 4000rpm on my gauge cluster TS shows 3500. I noticed this last night when tuning some rich fuel spots.

mx594m 10-29-2013 07:36 PM

TS website tells me V-2.0.8 is the most up to date version

could the difference be due to me using a MS-PNP1 and you using either a 2 or 3?

Impuls 10-29-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mx594m (Post 1068054)
TS website tells me V-2.0.8 is the most up to date version

could the difference be due to me using a MS-PNP1 and you using either a 2 or 3?

Oh it's probably because you're MS1
My computer with TS 2.0.6 has it.

Basic Setup>General, Lags (near the bottom)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1383093558

azmartin 10-29-2015 09:53 AM

same issue
 
Hello,

i´m having the exact same problem with my ProSport Wideband. Hast this ever been resolved or is buying some better controller the only way out?

Cheers

Martin


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