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Old 12-13-2010, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default Can we have a thread on MS tuners?

We should have a thread posting up all the qualified MS tuners (who don't blow **** up, and have a good track record with track cars). As far as I know the closest to me is Andre at Pina Motorsports. Although I did have my MS tuned at a shop here in Vancouver, BC (Blitzkreig Autowerks) and my **** didn't blow up bombing up a hill climb and a few track days.

So lets heard em'.

Post a location, tuner's name and shop name.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:13 PM   #2
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95% of the MS users on this forum tune their own ****.
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Great idea, I second the request. I can't find any tuners locally who know MS. And by tuner I mean a shop with a load bearing dyno, and some talent.

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i have talent. just need a dyno or a lot of open road
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Most tune their own cars and most of us are thousands of miles apart.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:57 PM   #6
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I've heard of tuners logging into computers and tuning over the interenets.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:58 PM   #7
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95% of the MS users on this forum tune their own ****.
Yes, but those 95% of the members are broke OR have a lot of time on their hands and what to learn it. I don't.

I want a tuner to tune my **** so it's reliable ON THE TRACK not daily driving.

When you're dropping $6000 on a motor/FI setup, you want it done right. I don't claim to know anything about tuning which is why I leave it to the professionals. Personally I would rather spend $600-$800 on a real dyno tune session than "hope" I got it right on my own.

The idea of this thread was more for future people who are looking for an MS tuner in their area. We make a list... sticky it and leave it be! Who would have thought.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:59 PM   #8
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Great idea, I second the request. I can't find any tuners locally who know MS. And by tuner I mean a shop with a load bearing dyno, and some talent.

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Old 12-13-2010, 07:20 PM   #9
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Jerry down at DIYAutotune in Atlanta is an excellent tuner. Also very reasonably priced.
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I've heard of tuners logging into computers and tuning over the interenets.
I've been asked to do this and declined immediately.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:47 PM   #11
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You can tune it yourself, be a man.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:07 AM   #12
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falcon -- I was just talking about starting a thread like this. I've had a lot of customers have bad experiences with tuners, and a thread like this might avoid that for some people. Anyways, here's a few that I can recommend:

In Indy, Shane Benson (aimtuning.com) is very good.

In Virginia, I've heard that Peter Florance (pftuning.com) is also very good.

In Seattle, Kito Auto Sport seems to do a fine job. But you might want to have them spend a little extra time getting the air/fuel curve flat.

I also have a list of tuners that have no idea what they're doing, but I guess I won't post those

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In Virginia, I've heard that Peter Florance (pftuning.com) also very good.
I met Peter at the last Megasquirt Megameet. He does indeed know what he is doing with MS. He was fuxoring around with settings on my MS3 that I had no clue what they were and he had never used an MS3 before. While he knows what he is doing in MS, he tends to just do full throttle pulls for tuning instead of going cell by cell on a loaded dyno. For a street car I would probably use him, for a track car I would probably not.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:13 AM   #14
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We're often pretty busy using our dyno for R&D, so we often refer people in the Atlanta area looking for commercial tuning to Ed Senf at Balanced Performance. While they don't have a load bearing dyno, Ed is talented enough to make up for that.

If you're near Omaha City, Scott Clark can sometimes be hired for tuning and does great work. He used to work with Spectre's eMS-Pro program.

In the Los Angeles area, I've heard a lot of good things about Shawn Church at Church Automotive.
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Matt, Would you give a run down of what you would tune, and about how much time your avg tune takes.

I think it would be nice to know what we should expect to have tuned from a tuner competent in MS. I had my car tuned by a person familiar with MS, but by know means an expert with all of the nuances. This resulted in tuning the car with some things turned on/off that shouldn't have been. i.e. enrichments (accel, MAT)

Are you guys tuning all of the enrichments?
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In the PNW:

Andre at Pina is a fantastic tuner who is familiar with the MS.

Bob @ driftoffice is also good with MS and seems like a pretty legit guy.

There are also several skilled tuners in the area who could give you a very good street tune for cheap if you would like to go to a dyno with a well sorted car to save some cash on setup time.
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shuiend, I actually met Peter at an autocross in Virginia, and subsequently ran into him again at a race in Nebraska. He's done a lot of race cars with good results!
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He's good at fixing fried MS3 boards too.
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shuiend, I actually met Peter at an autocross in Virginia, and subsequently ran into him again at a race in Nebraska. He's done a lot of race cars with good results!
I am not saying he is not good. I know he does a lot of autocross cars down in the 757. From talking to him about tuning though he normally does not go cell by cell and tune each one. If you are in that area and need a tune, then yes use him.
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No matter who you choose, rest assured that no one you pay will take the time and effort required to make the car run as nice as you could by doing it yourself.

Here is a good example:
My first $300 tune:

Why did they let me drive a car home with 100% duty on the injectors? I made 198whp at 16psi, lol.

My 2nd time at $600:

It still shot fire and bogged while getting 15mpg on the drive home...it melted the bumper and tail light and puked enough fuel on cruise that it made me vomit on the way home, while hte car was moving. I had it towed home and decided to do this myself after the shop insisted, "that's just how a $500 engine management drives!!!"

I finally manned up and did this:

After more road tuning I'll put it up against any OEM turbo car in drivability...and it made 260whp at 11psi.
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