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Old 04-18-2009, 04:57 PM   #21
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LOL @ buick comment.

Maybe I should have been more specific as far was what I have. Buying the MS from Brain, I assumed that since I told him what injectors I had planned on using, that he was setting the base tune up for that. (including accel enrich settings) I did the "calibrate tps" thing more than a few times. What should the numbers be? Just adjust the TPS on the throttle body until I get the numbers that I am looking for? Right now they are at 190 something and 30 or 40 something. I would have do double check.

This is kind of frustrating because I asked people to look at my **** earlier in the week, to let me know what I should do BEFORE I went to the drags, never got much help, then they start bashing me for running an untuned car. Thanks for all of the help gospeed. This is what these forums are for.

As far as the spark table goes, I haven't touched it. Same table that brain sent with the MS.
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:02 PM   #22
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I wouldn't expect any sort of pre-tuning to be done by the ECU builder.
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Old 04-18-2009, 07:12 PM   #23
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WB re-grounded...... still doesn't work.
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Old 04-18-2009, 07:25 PM   #24
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You need to configure the WBO2 output that goes to MS to something that MS understands using the supplied cable and software.

Then then tell MS what sort of input it can expect. Yes that means understanding what mfCfg/settings.ini means, specifically LAMBDA_SENSOR to:
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#  set INNOVATE_0_5_LINEAR  "Innovate, PLX 0-5V 10-20:1 AFR"
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:58 PM   #25
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That is exactly what I set it to before I even started the car for the first time.
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This is kind of frustrating because I asked people to look at my **** earlier in the week, to let me know what I should do BEFORE I went to the drags, never got much help, then they start bashing me for running an untuned car. Thanks for all of the help gospeed. This is what these forums are for.
You posted a log with no AFR input. What did you expect us to magically do, again?
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:02 PM   #27
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I was talking about the MSQ.

Edit: and I haven't touched any settings yet. Upon further reading tonight, and a WG actuator change, I'll attempt to mess with the accel stuff.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:15 PM   #28
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Buying the MS from Brain, I assumed that since I told him what injectors I had planned on using, that he was setting the base tune up for that. (including accel enrich settings)

It should have been in the neighborhood, but since EVERY car is different, even with similar setups, you still have to tune it.

Accel enrichments can be done with "butt" tuning.

Your VE tables really, really needs some datalogs. The base map will barely make you run...your car is unique, this is why you built it. Stock ECUs only work because the cars are all made exactly the same. No one can program an ECU for a car sight unseen. You (or a dyno operator you pay) has to do this.

If you get the WBO2 working, this is EASY, and better yet, it WORKS.



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I did the "calibrate tps" thing more than a few times. What should the numbers be? Just adjust the TPS on the throttle body until I get the numbers that I am looking for? Right now they are at 190 something and 30 or 40 something. I would have do double check.
There's several write-ups on this...please search. Sounds like you're on the right path. I'll be able to tell you tomorrow when I have time to mess with it.





Don't know what to tell you about frustration, you have to help us help you. We're not magicians, and I know very few mechanics that can diagnose a problem over the phone.




Sounds like your spark table should still be good then. A really bad fuel table can feel like laggy spark though. Since it's the one that Scott gave you: leave it until you either A.) start playing with det cans or B.) take it to a dyno.
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If you get the WBO2 working, this is EASY, and better yet, it WORKS.

Don't know what to tell you about frustration, you have to help us help you. We're not magicians, and I know very few mechanics that can diagnose a problem over the phone.

A.) start playing with det cans or B.) take it to a dyno.
Doesn't matter what I do, WB won't work. Not sure what's left to make it work right.

YOU have been the best help. I was talking about everyone else.

Dyno tuning coming next week hopefully. Going to "try" to fix some things myself this week and do some highway cruise tuning in preparation for a small road trip this weekend.

Like I stated earlier, I learn best by having people visually show me how to do things. Having to ask for help, and read countless threads from searches helps me very little.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:48 PM   #30
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This is kind of frustrating because I asked people to look at my **** earlier in the week, to let me know what I should do BEFORE I went to the drags, never got much help, then they start bashing me for running an untuned car. Thanks for all of the help gospeed. This is what these forums are for.

As far as the spark table goes, I haven't touched it. Same table that brain sent with the MS.
oh man, I have nothing better to do with my time than handle up on your lightwork when you can't post a working log of your bullshit. Please, ******* kill yourself and stop crying like a ------ on this board. Why don't you go down to your mom's basement and rub one out, again, for the 5th time today, because its no secret that you will never be man enough to come out of the closet and rim a trucker. Sorry to hear that your Daddy never loved you.
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oh man, I have nothing better to do with my time than handle up on your lightwork when you can't post a working log of your bullshit. Please, ******* kill yourself and stop crying like a ------ on this board. Why don't you go down to your mom's basement and rub one out, again, for the 5th time today, because its no secret that you will never be man enough to come out of the closet and rim a trucker. Sorry to hear that your Daddy never loved you.
**** you man. Nobody asked you to come in here and post YOUR bullshit. GTFO of my thread.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:35 PM   #32
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**** you man. Nobody asked you to come in here and post YOUR bullshit. GTFO of my thread.
Don't ******* type to me like that on this forum. I have a lot of friends in high places who just love to come down hard on handball-bottoms like yourself. You need to be a little more careful who you call names otherwise I might have to let my moderator friends know what a *** you are, and you definitely don't want that **** to happen if you want to continue posting on this forum. I highly recommend you take a moment from acting like a ------ with a bullshit sense of entitlement to think about all the people here who want to help you, but can't because you're too busy assaulting the moral fiber of this forum. Now STFU or I'll ban you and you can go to clubroaster and cry about how Hustler is "a mean bully."
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Don't ******* type to me like that on this forum. I have a lot of friends in high places who just love to come down hard on handball-bottoms like yourself. You need to be a little more careful who you call names otherwise I might have to let my moderator friends know what a *** you are, and you definitely don't want that **** to happen if you want to continue posting on this forum.
What gives you the right to talk to ME like you did? Just because I'm a noob, doesn't give you the ******* right to talk **** about me in the first place. You have nothing to contribute to this thread, so go somewhere else.
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Like I stated earlier, I learn best by having people visually show me how to do things. Having to ask for help, and read countless threads from searches helps me very little.
I learn best by getting everyone on the internet to do it for me because I'm too lazy to read and learn **** myself. HELP ME NOW! TUNE MY CAR NOW!!! WAH, WAH, I'M A BABY.
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HELP ME NOW! TUNE MY CAR NOW!!! WAH, WAH, I'M A BABY.
Come on now. You don't want to go there. You are the whiniest bitch on the interwebs and you know it.
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I learn best by getting everyone on the internet to do it for me because I'm too lazy to read and learn **** myself. HELP ME NOW! TUNE MY CAR NOW!!! WAH, WAH, I'M A BABY.
So what should he do, start a new thread and say he's ready to sell the car because he can't get it sorted and is worried he'll destroy it the first time he takes it to the track? Help the guy out if you can, even if it's just a little bit. I know you have the knowledge to at least point him in the right direction.

It would be nice if we could get a little beyond the "go search *******" mentality and start helping people, just a little bit. Even if that involves some of the more experienced people helping out a bit and posting a link to a thread or telling the poster what terms to use while doing a search or a username to look for in the results.

The last few times I've done any searching on this forum I came to a few conclusions. First, the search function on this forum sucks. Second, half the posts I did find, all were telling the OP to just ******* search.
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Come on now. You don't want to go there. You are the whiniest bitch on the interwebs and you know it.
Its an art. However, you win at taking the internet seriously.
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What gives you the right to talk to ME like you did? Just because I'm a noob, doesn't give you the ******* right to talk **** about me in the first place. You have nothing to contribute to this thread, so go somewhere else.

You're right. You'd have to do something to deserve the chest-**** you're about to recieve.

Something like..


1. Posting a thread where you post an MSQ that gives us absolutely no info about your tune, and a datalog without an AFR curve, and then complaining when nobody helps you
2. Insulting (with the exception of one person) everyone on this forum for not helping you
3. Repeated posting unfathomably retarded **** on other forums. Don't think anyone here has forgotten that you literally said "The BEGi-S kit is not complete and you will need more parts to make it run".

How FM justifies your employment is beyond me. You're a tool and you should get the **** off this forum.
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1. Posting a thread where you post an MSQ that gives us absolutely no info about your tune, and a datalog without an AFR curve, and then complaining when nobody helps you
2. Insulting (with the exception of one person) everyone on this forum for not helping you
3. Repeated posting unfathomably retarded **** on other forums. Don't think anyone here has forgotten that you literally said "The BEGi-S kit is not complete and you will need more parts to make it run".

How FM justifies your employment is beyond me. You're a tool and you should get the **** off this forum.

1. How did my MSQ give no info? If something looks way off, tell me. That's all I was asking for.

2. I didn't insult anyone. I simply said that nobody else was helping...which was true.

3. what retarted ****? Got proof?

FM has nothing to do with this thread, or how I act on the forums. Last I checked, I don't have a "Sponsor" tag under my user name, therefor I represent nobody but myself. Leave them out of it.

I have searched for answers to MANY of my questions before I posted. As JayL said, the search function on this forum sucks just like any other forum. Finding **** that is usable is rare, and when I do find what I am looking for it has helped a ton.

Kind wish I had kept my last car. Nissan crowd > Miata crowd.
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MX-5 Miata Forum - Turbo help please - R1600Turbo = GT3man2001

I'm not even going to bother with further thuggery or big red text or a two-paragraph sexually illicit story involving tweety-bird floormats and masturbation. That link says more than I ever could about your character and intelligence.
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