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hustler 11-26-2008 04:26 PM

help with mspnp9093 fan control
 
I have a fan control problem.

I am not running the front clt sensor becuase it supposedly is not used by the mspnp. I have not touched any other settings because they all look right. The output #2 menu has the trigger temp set at 215, when I lower it to something colder than ambient it does not turn on. Any thoughts?

thesnowboarder 11-27-2008 04:49 AM

Isnt the front temp sensor is what turns the fans on and off? While the rear is what you see on your dash? You could either wire it to a switch and manually turn it on and off, or do as i did, and just ground it and whenever the key is on the fans are on.

Ben 11-27-2008 08:07 AM

Use a DMM or testlight to see if the fan is getting power, then start tracing back. There's a relay in the underhood fuse area, probably a fuse in there too. If you've done any 'experimenting' with a dual fan set up and a/c, it's likely you've blown the relay.

I hijacked the fan switch and re-wired it to the a/c fan through a DPST relay. So the main fan comes on at the temp set by MS and the secondary fan comes on with a/c or at where the fan switch is set-207 I think.

hustler 11-27-2008 10:34 AM

I can take the switch to gnd and the fans come on. No fuses are blown. What's "dpst?"

Ben 11-27-2008 10:46 AM

so it sounds like you did some 'experimenting' with a dual fan setup. return wiring to stock.
it's a spdt relay, not dpst. google bitch.

patsmx5 11-27-2008 11:41 AM

Post screen shot of your settings. They're probably wrong.

Toddcod 11-27-2008 12:05 PM

Yea, what they said. LOL............

Your almost done. Doesn't it feel good?

When you have it grounded with the key off, does the fans still run?

If not and all else fails, just hook the ground up, and install a fuse on the power end. Fans run when the car is on. And if it draws too much power it will blow the fuse.

Atleast your car is always cool.

hustler 11-27-2008 12:19 PM

http://i38.tinypic.com/n1oshs.jpg

I've adjusted nothing.

Ben 11-27-2008 12:22 PM

yeah you have. it's set to turn the fan on at 255F.
try backing it down to something more reasonable.

patsmx5 11-27-2008 12:27 PM

For some BS reason you have to put that number 40*F colder than what you actually want. I think. That's why it read 215*F and been says "it's set to turn the fan on at 255F". So if it's 70*F outside put it to 0*F and see if the fans power on.

hustler 11-27-2008 12:37 PM

at "0" I have no fans.

patsmx5 11-27-2008 02:57 PM

Who knows with your frakenstein shit. Put a voltage meter on the output coming from MS and verify if it's sending out a GROUND when it turns the fans on. That will isolate the problem to either the MS or the cars wiring. Just put the meter for a continuity test. One side to ground, one to MS fan output and see if you get continuity when you tell MS to turn the fans on. Troubleshoot your shit.

hustler 11-27-2008 05:53 PM

This shit is ghey as fuck.

Toddcod 11-27-2008 06:10 PM

Off topic but where is that Kpa = Psi chart you had?

Braineack 11-27-2008 07:41 PM

Kpa - 100 / 7 = psi

Atlanta93LE 11-28-2008 10:59 AM

An on-off limit of 215 equates to 175F. That is indeed the MSPNP default. Ben, you went the wrong way.

hustler 11-28-2008 01:27 PM

paging diyautotune.

hustler 12-04-2008 06:21 PM

any chance that this is something simple like a need to plug the sensor in, although its not in the motor?

Can someone with a 9093 unplug their front fan switch sensor and see if the fans still work? I know DIY says this works, but it would be nice to know if anyone else has successfully done this. I've bitten off more than I can chew and now I have a car I can't drive. This was my #1 concern with this car.

Atlanta93LE 12-04-2008 06:43 PM

My fan works without the thermoswitch on the thermostat cover connected. Verified many times.

hustler 12-04-2008 06:55 PM

any idea on which pin to check coming from the computer? I'd really like to get the car working so I could drive it on a 300 mile trip.


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