I guess I could use it for smoothing, but then again I can use my brain power and determine a number between 45 and 49.

right, visually it just looks like a terrain map or something, kinda neat for camping. i like the numbers and i'm left handed

Downloading now. Now that I actually get to fool around with MS for the first time.

If you guys saw, i did post a guide on setting it up.

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t40159/

I find the 3D tables helpful on the dyno. Get the dot that says where the engine is at as far as load and RPM exactly on a vertex, move your dot to the same point, and then shift up-arrow or shift down-arrow to change the amount of fuel.

It makes load-tuning on the dyno much faster.

Ken

Help a newbie out, what functions can't it use?

How is the 3d map in TS different than the 3D maps under tuning in MT?

You guys think it would be too complicated to start out on? Seems like everyone is learning MT then switching to TS.

I would just start from TunerStudio. The layout is different, but it isn't any more "complicated" than MT.

Edit: The only thing I used MT for was the initial setup/build of my megasquirt. All of my tuning has been with TS.

Any idea how soon soon is for autotune in Tunerstudio? Are we talking weeks or months?

Well, a new version dropped last night. On the msextra forums, Phin Tobin stated that he wanted to have it done in the next version, but he was having a hard time getting it bug free due to adding in MS3 stuff. Apparently its there, but hidden... and buggy. Hopefully the next full version release will have it. He is pretty good about putting out new versions ever month or two.

They aren't really... They're a bit nicer looking but that's about it.

Ken

Well, actually, using the MegaTune's 3D maps were a pain in the ass.

no matter which way you move the table around, moving around the cursor with the arrows keys doesn't seem to change, unlike TunerStudio. For example, I made my AFR table "flipped" so the lower the AFR's, the "higher" the hill goes. On megatune, if you were to do this, using the cursor key, going up would make the cursor go "down" on the 3D map. Really confusing.

Yeah, I think in that respect to each his own. I actually liked the MT way better as far as that went. The TS way works great until you get close to a rotation where neither direction makes sense. I think that's why Phil added the ability to do it the old way.

I don't generally flip my tables completely around though, I generally keep them oriented mostly like they start out when you load the dialog, only moving them to get a better view of the data.

As far as ms3 stuff, Phil has added a lot of stuff for us for ms3 that we couldn't do before.

Things like combined dialogs, etc... As soon as I'm done working on the ini tonight (adding some ITB load mode stuff, a special load calc just for ITBs that utilizes both TPS and MAP in a single table) I'll post it and you can see what I mean.

Ken

Unzip this and try it in TunerStudio. Let me know what you think.

Ken

does TS work with MSpnp?

does TS have closedloop BC for MS1?

swapped to TS yesterday, i had my accl values tuned in 10 mins, they were so off, and being able to see the gauges still work when having other windows up helps alot

Yes.

Ken

Closed loop boost control is a function of the firmware not the tuning software.

Ken

for some reason i cant get it to connect to my ECU.