Originally Posted by Harv
(Post 145585)
Tuning time, something to consider I guess when getting the MSPNP. Seems like it is tough to dial it in without a fair amount of dyno time and some experience with the software.
When you buy a standalone, you aren't buying performance, you're buying 'the ability to tune your car'. So why would you buy it if you weren't fully planning to do some tuning? If you don't, you're not going to get what you want out of the car. If you do, you might just be amazed. Either way, the box is still pretty ;) |
Originally Posted by Harv
(Post 145589)
I see the advantages to the MS, but at the same time with more power comes more responsibility.
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Originally Posted by FoundSoul
(Post 145590)
Just another thought that gave me a chuckle--
When you buy a standalone, you aren't buying performance, you're buying 'the ability to tune your car'. So why would you buy it if you weren't fully planning to do some tuning? If you don't, you're not going to get what you want out of the car. If you do, you might just be amazed. Either way, the box is still pretty ;) I guess I'm too used to people going at it via road runs and logging. I used to have a GN back in the day and the GN guys had a bunch of different things they did to get things dialed in, but unless you were going for serious power you didn't hear about dyno tuning all that much. I'm sure that has changed, especially since I assume the MS has made it's way over there as well. |
what were their tricks?
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It depends on your setup if a dyno is needed or not as the base map is already dyno tuned on an N/A car. N/A, the base map for ignition is right on and VE is right on for a stock car, and you can use a wideband to fine tune the fuel map without dyno time. Forced induction, dyno time is needed.
And the 'tricks' that people use to dial cars in on the street are basically good for WOT only, and they're a compromise at that. Twisting distributors and adjusting fuel pressure and timing WOT runs. You don't do any of that with a standalone and you need to tune more than that to get the most out of a standalone. Or some choose to settle for less, they're ok with a tune the bucks like a mule at part throttle, gets crappy mileage, and stumbles when you tip-in, as long as it's feels fast at WOT. And you know what makes a car feel fast at WOT? Having a car that runs like crap everywhere else and only pulls good there.... |
Originally Posted by Loki047
(Post 145595)
what were their tricks?
It's a bit different too since the car was built as a turbo car from the factory.
Originally Posted by FoundSoul
(Post 145596)
It depends on your setup if a dyno is needed or not as the base map is already dyno tuned on an N/A car. N/A, the base map for ignition is right on and VE is right on for a stock car, and you can use a wideband to fine tune the fuel map without dyno time. Forced induction, dyno time is needed.
And the 'tricks' that people use to dial cars in on the street are basically good for WOT only, and they're a compromise at that. You need to tune more than that to get the most out of a standalone. Or you can settle for less as many do. |
if the car is running lean at idle, why is it spitting fuel out of the exhaust.
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Well.. you said the car is misfiring right? Misfire=unburnt fuel spewing out into the exhaust... eventually that comes out the back.
Here's the bottom line-- you unplugged your aftermarket FPR and it smoothed out alot right? So doesn't that tell you that there's something funky being introduced by your fuel pressure? Like it's either low or high at idle? You're both emailing me and posting the same questions out here at the same times, so I'm having to double post the same info-- As a quick test though, with you FPR hooked back up like normal, try adjusting your REQ_FUEL setting higher and lower. You engine is either needed more or less fuel, and you need to figure out which it is. If you lower REQ_FUEL the net effect is if you leaned out your entire fuel table. Similarly if you raise REQ_FUEL then it's the same net effect as richening up your entire fuel table. NOTE-- this is NOT the right way to tune, this is just a test, and a 'quick test' at that. Once you know what you need to adjust you should set your REQ_FUEL back to the proper value that you calculated for your injector size, and then tune this out in your VE table. |
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