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Old 12-30-2010, 03:42 AM   #1
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Default MS3/MS3X in-car mounting

I was kind of surprised to see that this hadn't been discussed at all, but it's got me a little confused so I'll put it out there: How are you mounting the MS3/MS3X box in the car?

I just assumed that it would fit in the same location as the stock ECU ('93 1.6L - under the passenger side kick panel) in the same way as the MSPNP does, but I didn't give thought to the fact that the case is much taller until I'd finished building it. I gave it a quick test-fit this arvo and it didn't fit under the kick panel. I could give a more simple approach a go (flattening the panel, or even bending it outward), but I figured I'd check in to see if anyone had done anything more imaginative first.
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And that's not your only issue - if you put it there, how are you going to have access to the SD card slot?
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Why would you need to? can't you pull the data off through TunerStudio?
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:29 AM   #4
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I went 2 or 3 years with the metal cover removed in the name of adding lightness. Never had a problem.

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Why would you need to? can't you pull the data off through TunerStudio?
No, not currently.
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wifi sd card?
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What is that going to accomplish? It doesn't work the way you think it works, even if somehow the MS3 supported it.
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It's not a "supported" feature. It basically has a wifi card and processor in it and will upload files from itself to a specified server when in range of a wireless network or hotspot. All it needs is the proper power. Only assumption I'm making is that it'll do the same for other files as it does for photos. http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/basics
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Why would you need to? can't you pull the data off through TunerStudio?
Sure, but there are a lot of tuning issues you can only catch with the speed of the SD card.

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It's not a "supported" feature. It basically has a wifi card and processor in it and will upload files from itself to a specified server when in range of a wireless network or hotspot. All it needs is the proper power. Only assumption I'm making is that it'll do the same for other files as it does for photos. http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/basics
I have one in a digital camera... and that'd be sweet, but I don't think it'll upload non-picture/non-video files... need to look that up tho, as I never touch my camera.
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Yeah, a quick perusal of google says that there software will not upload any other formats and they have no desire to change that.... Now if we just told it to save the files as say... .JPG and renamed them after upload I bet it would work. Anyone know how hard it is to change the extension the ms3 generates? Prolly a good question for msextra forums, cuz I'm sure they'd be willing to make a button or something to allow eye-fi usage.
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Sure, but there are a lot of tuning issues you can only catch with the speed of the SD card.

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You misunderstand.

I mean record to the SD card then pull that data off through the serial port/USB port.

I assumed this would be possible otherwise what's the point? ECUs are rarely easily accessable.
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Pretty easily accessible in a 94/95
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Pretty easily accessible in a 94/95
Umm only in the USA. Everywhere else in the world it's under the passenger kickplate irrespective of year.
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I went 2 or 3 years with the metal cover removed in the name of adding lightness. Never had a problem.
Did you have passengers often? I use my car for a daily, and I'd be a little nervous about the passenger accidentally kicking the case and wiring. Although I guess that it's sturdy enough to handle a light tapping, it's not like people are thrashing their legs around down there.

In regards to the SD card accessibility, it's not that much of a pain. A 5 minute job with a 10mm spanner, if that. It wouldn't need checking that often anyway (unless you were sorting a particular issue, but then just leave the cover off?)
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Weird. I totally posted in this thread a few days ago and I must never have submitted it...

So I have an MS3X in the big case and had a similar problem of nowhere to put that beast. I ended up zip tying it to the underside of the dash area up against the ducting for the HVAC system. I had to cut two small plastic nipples off the bottom to get it to sit more flat and not stick down so much but it's pretty good.

The unit is not visible without sticking your head down there and the SD card slot ended up just below the bottom edge of the glove compartment so it's easily accessible by reaching down under the glove box door.

I'll see if I can get some pictures next time I'm out there.
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you basically did this




I did this:



If I need SD card it takes all of 45 seconds to access the ECU under the carpet...still have metal plate in place, just 3 hand tightened screws.
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Brain, can you clarify. If you take an SD log, can you extract it without pulling the card out of the ECU?
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Brain, can you clarify. If you take an SD log, can you extract it without pulling the card out of the ECU?
That would be a negative, you must remove the SD card and plug it into a computer.
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Kinda ***** that.
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That would be a negative, you must remove the SD card and plug it into a computer.
wrong! you can extract them with a utility. You just dont want to because it's slow as ****.

http://www.msextra.com/doc/ms3/sdlogging.html#utilities
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