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Old 01-22-2007, 10:28 PM   #1
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I shot KingofL337 a pm about this, but he never responded. Does anyone know if he's made progress on his PnP setup for the 1.8 cars? Is there a way to use pre-made harnesses? I could do it myself, but everyone I've heard who did do the wiring themselves said they would buy a pre-made harness in a heartbeat.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:44 PM   #2
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like i said in the other thread, his setup is nice, but you can DIY. it isn't that hard.
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I could DIY, but like I said, most of the guys who have gone that route have said that the extra cash is 100% worth it.
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:32 PM   #4
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I think you're thinking of people who actually assembled the MS themselves instead of buying preassembled. That definitely would be worth the extra 140$. The board mods and wiring aren't too bad. Plus if you do them yourself you'll actually know what's going on. You're probably going to want to add stuff like EBC and fan control, etc, so you'll be opening the box up and soldering and wiring anyway.
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Actually I'm supposed to be the guinea pig for the 1.8 na obd-I setup. I sent him money and my ecu so he could prototype a miatasquirt for the 1.8. Unfortunately I haven't heard from him in a few weeks.

I assume when he's done with mine he'll be able to offer a miatasquirt for the 94-95.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:47 AM   #6
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Why not fit the Megasquirt board inside the Mazda ECU box and wire it straight up to the original plug?

Wouldn't that save you buying the PnP harness in the first place??
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:09 AM   #7
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For those who want a PnP MS:
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Originally Posted by 2007 State of the Union
Also, last year we started mentioning the ability to license the MegaSquirt hardware and IP for use with other specific applications. We are still working out all of the final legal details on this. We have been working with an established company, Spectre Performance, as the first example of application under license. They will be introducing their Phantom EMS unit for sale in Q2 of this year. This particular implementation has taken the base MS1 unit and provided several enhancements, including upgraded connector, more application-direct I/O, a re-write in the PC tuning software, etc. Additionally, this product will be offered to an audience who desires a more “plug-n-go” implementation, as compared to the current MegaSquirt audience of DIY. So this should not be viewed as a direct competitor to the DIY version of MegaSquirt, but as a system that is targeted to a more “consumer” market, priced aggressively compared to existing aftermarket solutions. This is a totally different world with different rules, so it will be interesting to see how this unfolds over the coming months.
http://www.spectreperformance.com/#N...RODUCTS.102506

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I think you're thinking of people who actually assembled the MS themselves instead of buying preassembled. That definitely would be worth the extra 140$. The board mods and wiring aren't too bad. Plus if you do them yourself you'll actually know what's going on. You're probably going to want to add stuff like EBC and fan control, etc, so you'll be opening the box up and soldering and wiring anyway.
Agreed...
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Why not fit the Megasquirt board inside the Mazda ECU box and wire it straight up to the original plug?

Wouldn't that save you buying the PnP harness in the first place??
Generally MS on an MX5 is a parallel install, you still retain the stock ECU to control some minor functions.

plus it'd never fit in a million years
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Generally MS on an MX5 is a parallel install, you still retain the stock ECU to control some minor functions.
Oh but that all changes very soon now... very soon.

I've said too much.
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Well come on Jerry fill us in. If we're all gonna throw down and get in on MS you should atleast tell us if we should wait or not. I really don't want to get my V3.0 board all put together for MSI and find out something better/smaller just came out that will run MSnSE or something similar.
Just a little bit..... please please please
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Oh but that all changes very soon now... very soon.

I've said too much.
even for the 01+ miatas? alternator control etc?
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Oh but that all changes very soon now... very soon.

I've said too much.
Well crap, and Im working on my ms1 v3 right now.... bah!
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I really can't say much just yet... But count on the earlier cars coming first... and everything about it being 'taken to the next level'. I need to shut my cakehole now .
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Oh but that all changes very soon now... very soon.

I've said too much.
i know someone who is working on p'n'p MS off modified miata ecus.
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even for the 01+ miatas? alternator control etc?
Matt,

are you THAT desperate with the Hydra? Anyway, do what I did and run the MS in parallel with the stock ECU. This will save you from having to tune idle valve, do extra voltage regulation, VTCS, VVT, EGR, purge canister, etc.

Jim
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Matt,

are you THAT desperate with the Hydra? Anyway, do what I did and run the MS in parallel with the stock ECU. This will save you from having to tune idle valve, do extra voltage regulation, VTCS, VVT, EGR, purge canister, etc.

Jim
No, not really. I haven't tried the updated firmware yet. I sent it out for an update a few months ago and was waiting to get the car inspected before putting it back in. Maybe it will help with tuning all those things but who knows. The major part of the update was for the alternator control.

It was "ok" for idle and vtcs. did purge fine. love the VVT implementation... but the old firmware was no good for voltage and the hydra never will do EGR. I even modified my turbo manifold with the EGR pipe. I'd like to use it.

Also, I think DC doesn't care about CARB or visual stuff, just the OBDII port. If I can get the hydra and stock ECU to play nice--well that's less work every 2 years.

That said, I'm really doing it just to do it. Like running a Tec3 for a year and moving to the hydra. I can't seem to not have a project to work on for too long!

Matt
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