I thought the mspnp-pro had more features/speed/etc/etc.
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the MSPNPPRO utilizes the MS3-PRO module, yes.
Frank's PCB is pretty much a DIY-MS3PRO: MS3 Pro pcb V2.0 | Frank's Westfield MX5 MS3 Pro pcb V2.0 | You'd buy a MS3-PRO module, build his PCB, bolt the module to his PCB, and then install--ultimately ending up with a "MSPNP-PRO". I had a MS3-Pro, and just soldered a miata connector at the end of the supplied harness, and had it running within an hour. |
Ok, makes sense. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
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Note that I am focusing only on offerings from DIYAutoTune, which is considered by most to comprise the "mainstream" MS product line. There are also some excellent Miata-specific MS-based ECUs available from MSLabs, however I am not particularly knowledgeable about those.
Right now, we have 3 product lines - The Basic MS2 - The Enhanced MS2 - The Basic MS3 These 3 lines are available for ALL the 90-05 Miata: - 90-93 (US) and 94-97 1.6L (Europe and Japan, possibly elsewhere) - 94-95 1.8L - 96-97 1.8L - 99-00 1.8L and 1.6L - 01-05 1.8L and 1.6L - 04-05 1.8L MSM (you haz trubo) - The Basic MS2 is our entry-level plug and play ECU for the Miata/MX-5. This ECU has all the functionality necessary to run the engine without any performance loss (save for the 01-05 with the VVT). This includes controlling the fuel pump after removing the AFM, A/C with idle-up, etc. Basic EBC and simple table switching are also provided. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425064952https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425064952 - The Enhanced MS2 is an MS2 on steroids. It has all the features any other MS2 has, and adds unique features, like: + OBD-II output + Digital wideband input for a perfect, error/noise-free AFR input + VSS input + Dual fan control with idle-up + Advanced A/C support + Advanced knock control with bandpass filters, knock windowing and adjustable thresholds per RPM + EGT input * Sequential ignition AND injection + Adjustable alternator control (99-05) + Immobilizer support (01-05) + Dedicated VICS/VTCS outputs (99-05) + Advanced boost control with 2 open loops tables (select with an external switch), 1 closed loop table, open loop boost by gear + Oil pressure input + Oil temperature input + Valet mode + Power steering idle-up + Advanced launch mode + Independently enabled flatshift + CEL warnings for overheating, knocking, low oil pressure, high oil temperature, high EGTs + TEN terminal input to easily set the base timing and idle * Realtime barometric correction * 2 free programmable outputs All features with a (+) are EXCLUSIVE to the Enhanced MS2 - no other MS2-based ECU has these. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425064952https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425064952 The Basic MS3 - despite it's humble name - is a full-fledged MS3 ECU. It has everything you would expect it to have: - Sequential injection - Sequential ignition - Dual fan control - A/C control - VICS/VTCS output - Electronic boost control - VVT control - Advanced knock control with knock windowing - VSS input - E85 sensor input - 3 free programmable outputs - 5 free analog inputs with selectable internal pull-ups - Alternator & battery light control (99-05) - SD Card datalogging with real-time clock and internal battery backup. The SD card slot is accessible so that you can pop card in at any time without opening the case. - USB and serial port https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425064952https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425064952 Feel free to PM me with any questions on these ECUs. Dimitris |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1210539)
It's called: ask Frank to make more connector boards.
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yeah you save roughly $200-250 or so and have a really slick case --definitely the best option for NB owners.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1210500)
Will there ever be a diymspnp pro?
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Thats what I have already. I was interested I'm the speed and features of the pro. Then I realized you already had a pro module. Which is 850$.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1210586)
Let me help. :)
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I have a fun list of requirements, what to buy?
1) Knock detection/control. I was really impressed with the knock sensing/control options on hhammerly's car. I want that. 2) I do NOT want PNP in any form. I need to build a new harness. 3) As cheap as possible, as expensive as necessary What buy? I feel like the DIYPNP is the value leader in the original post, but i do NOT want the PNP portion of it. Is there an option with that cpu/board that isn't? |
Originally Posted by ofspunk7
(Post 1211474)
I think adding Rev's post to the 1st post may be a good idea, vs page 3.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1215063)
What buy? I feel like the DIYPNP is the value leader in the original post, but i do NOT want the PNP portion of it. Is there an option with that cpu/board that isn't?
http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/Micro...rdware-3.3.pdf |
Outside of the Enhanced MS2, no other MS2-based ECU that I know of has good knock control (or even decent to be honest). This includes all Microsquirt module variants.
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Why not MS3+MS3x?
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I'm not against it. Was mostly trying to see what the cheapest option for my needs would be.
Rev, do you do ms2e in NOT pnp form? |
The microsquirt ECU is $300. that's going to be your cheapest:easiest option far from building a v3.0 board with a MS2 daughterboard at $280. both will require a harness to be built, the microsquirt will need some pullups for your cmp/cmk signals and a MAP sensor.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1215209)
Rev, do you do ms2e in NOT pnp form? |
If you can build your own harness you can build your own MS3.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1215219)
The microsquirt ECU is $300. that's going to be your cheapest:easiest option far from building a v3.0 board with a MS2 daughterboard at $280. both will require a harness to be built, the microsquirt will need some pullups for your cmp/cmk signals and a MAP sensor.
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1215242)
Buy the MS2E + buy OEM connectors and pins + build your own harness
Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1215244)
If you can build your own harness you can build your own MS3.
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Can anyone comment on the advantages/disadvantages of the the MSPNP pro and the mslabs basic ms3?
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