Sync Loss at High RPM
So from reading this, when you installed the VVT engine you swapped out the cam position sensor which is normally on the rear of the exhaust cam(92 chassis) and wired in 99+ sensors.
This is a bit of work, but if you still have the old cam position sensor you could install it to see if that solves the problem.
I looked on you tube trying to find what the tach normally does with a high rpm misfire and ran into this video, where the guy had a misfire and basically
replaced everything, only to find a connector that was not properly plugged in.
misfire
I think the only things you have not double checked on the cam sensor inputs would be the input wires themselves and the MS3 computer/connections?
I have a 91 and had one of the wires fail from the cam sensor to the CPU. The car would occasionally just die and then restart 10 minutes later
-no misfire though, but you never know the exact nature of the failure.
This is a bit of work, but if you still have the old cam position sensor you could install it to see if that solves the problem.
I looked on you tube trying to find what the tach normally does with a high rpm misfire and ran into this video, where the guy had a misfire and basically
replaced everything, only to find a connector that was not properly plugged in.
misfire
I think the only things you have not double checked on the cam sensor inputs would be the input wires themselves and the MS3 computer/connections?
I have a 91 and had one of the wires fail from the cam sensor to the CPU. The car would occasionally just die and then restart 10 minutes later
-no misfire though, but you never know the exact nature of the failure.
No good point I should have mentioned that so people can see it without opening up the tune.
I've been running 3ms dwell from the DIY basemap and I believe that matched trubokittys as well and is consistent with what I've seen people running. I tried 4 and 5ms as well but no improvement.
I've been running 3ms dwell from the DIY basemap and I believe that matched trubokittys as well and is consistent with what I've seen people running. I tried 4 and 5ms as well but no improvement.
seem to defy logic. I would make a list of all the possible problems and then systematically replace each one to confirm that is not the problem. Of course doing that may yield nothing. I have had electronic intermittent issues which
have ended up being solved only by pure luck. (not Miata related) Good Luck!
You make a good point, but is it impossible that there might a vibration at high rpm acceleration/engine movement which is causing the wire to become intermittent? I know it seems like using logic is best in these situations, but some problems
seem to defy logic. I would make a list of all the possible problems and then systematically replace each one to confirm that is not the problem. Of course doing that may yield nothing. I have had electronic intermittent issues which
have ended up being solved only by pure luck. (not Miata related) Good Luck!
seem to defy logic. I would make a list of all the possible problems and then systematically replace each one to confirm that is not the problem. Of course doing that may yield nothing. I have had electronic intermittent issues which
have ended up being solved only by pure luck. (not Miata related) Good Luck!
Figured I'd wrap this thread up with somewhat of a conclusion. Ended up getting the R8 coils, built the sequential harness and ran the 2 new leads to the MS, all went very smoothly and car started right up and drove great. Retuned fuel a bit, spark felt nice and strong, ripped on it pretty hard on the street for 4 days no issues whatsoever until it started misfiring consistently again. Super frustrated, let the car sit for a few days, tested some stuff and did some thinking. At some point I had noticed my idle rpm has been changing (with no mechanical changes) and needed retuning throughout the season so that led me to finding that the IACV connection wasn't great. I could change the angle/wiggle/pull at the wires and the idle would change due to poor contact/voltage supply I assume. I unplugged it completely for a few days while waiting for a new one, and opened up the idle screw a bit to keep it running and didn't have any misfires. The OEM pins and seals had definitely seen better days at 30+ years old and saw some marks of heat, and after replacing them there's no more variation in contact/idle and I did not have any misfire since doing that a few days ago. Car is away for storage now but if anything changes next year I'll come back to this.
Only thing I don't understand is how a loose IACV wire could cause those sync losses/ severe misfires under load. My best guess is it would momentarily connect/disconnect and create noise in the ecu/electrical system. They do share the same white/red +12V wire so maybe it's possible. Maybe it is completely unrelated, I suppose I will find out next season haha. Thank you everybody for the feedback and suggestions!!
Only thing I don't understand is how a loose IACV wire could cause those sync losses/ severe misfires under load. My best guess is it would momentarily connect/disconnect and create noise in the ecu/electrical system. They do share the same white/red +12V wire so maybe it's possible. Maybe it is completely unrelated, I suppose I will find out next season haha. Thank you everybody for the feedback and suggestions!!
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