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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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My tune (1.6 na) has 2 fuel tables (VE1,VE3) which transfers over about 4.26 to 4.27 volts.

Now that I'm starting to road tune with LC-1, I'm having to choose either VE1 or VE3 in VEAnalyze Live. Is there a way to tune both at the same time? Right now I've started on VE1 which is doing pretty well, and then I went to VE3 to tune and of course its not picking up anything except when I really get on it. I almost feel like I could be missing something when starting in VE1 (low revs) and flooring it to redline... or is it fine and just make sure I do similar pulls when tuning both maps indiviually?

Also, it seems like you can't change the AFR table in VEAnalyze live... I'm locked into a 8x8 table. MT allowed 2 different AFR tables (one for each VE table), but I just combined the AFR target table.. it just lost some resolution but no biggie at this point for me.
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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what are you trying to do make a low and high map ve table? basically making twice the amount of cells?
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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does this work having separate tables? i thought it didn't
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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I use 2 maps, one for 0-2.46 volts and one for 2.47-5 volts. This is done for increased resolution for I believe MS1 HR10.

Forgive me as I am very new to this and just starting to dial my car in. Does everyone run just 1 fuel map (12x12 table)?
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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you don't need two AFR targets tables...there's hardly a need for two fuel maps.
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Andrew is using the AFM, not a MAP sensor. He needs both tables because of the extreme lack of linearity of the AFM curve. I did all of my tuning with MLV, which had some bugs with dual tables, but it's usable. The new VEAnalyze Live may have issues too.

OK... so... when you click on the "VE Analyze Live" tab, it brings up three sub-tabs (Fuel VE Table 1, VE Table 2 (DT), and Fuel VE Table 3). Both tables 1 and 3 should be selectable, and it looks like you can individually start Auto Tune for each one.

So that'll work... however, you're right, there is a bug. In the Fuel VE Table 3 AFR Targets, it shows the Table 1 targets! That's no good. I'll report the issue to the TunerStudio author.

Until then, you'll need to use MLV :/
Old Apr 1, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Thanks for the clarification Justin... I wasn't sure how others had theirs setup.
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Read here for a fix:

Megasquirt MSEXTRA and MS3EFI support forum • View topic - AFR target lookup bug in VE Analyze Live?
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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this thread did give me a good idea however...
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