Plug-in ECUs for the Miata - at attractive prices
02-28-2007, 08:31 PM
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Plug-in ECUs for the Miata - at attractive prices
Link is pleased to announce that we're now selling our engine management systems direct via the web at extremely attractive prices.
As an example, the new LEM G3 with a plug-in adapter for the 1.6 or 1.8 liter Miata is:
Features of the LEMG3 include:
For more information on the Miata plug-ins please see:
Finally, we do offer bulk-buy terms - 10% / 20% for 5 and 10 units respectively. Any model of ECU from our range counts towards the total.
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As an example, the new LEM G3 with a plug-in adapter for the 1.6 or 1.8 liter Miata is:
- US$ 1170
- € 860
- AU$ 1380
- £ 570
Features of the LEMG3 include:
- Large, high-resolution maps to accurately control fuel and ignition and maximise the performance of your engine
- Absolute stability of tune regardless of altitude and weather due to the on-board barometric sensor
- Non-factory features such as anti-lag, launch control, boost control and more.
- Easy tuning using our free PCLink software via on-board USB
- The adapter allows you to plug directly into your factory ECU connectors. No looms or wiring required.
- Also available in a 5 bar version
For more information on the Miata plug-ins please see:
Finally, we do offer bulk-buy terms - 10% / 20% for 5 and 10 units respectively. Any model of ECU from our range counts towards the total.
Please note:
- The price quoted includes shipping, but excludes taxes and dutues, and may be subject to exchange rate fluctuations.
- Shipping is via DHL international couriers, and typical shipping times to the UK are from 2-4 business days.
- Payment is via PayPal or Credit Card.
- Unlike others, we're going to be straight with you. Our plug-in systems mean that you don't have to do any wiring, and the base-map provided with the ECU should allow you to start and run a reasonably standard engine immediately. However, to optimise performance (the reason you're fitting an aftermarket ECU in the first place) you'll need to tune your car on a dyno. Just like any other aftermarket ECU, you're not just going to be able to plug it in and dial in extra power.
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02-28-2007, 08:46 PM
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How does this G3 compare to the MiataLink as offered to us by Flyin Miata? Does it include a keypad? Is fueling control full time closed loop?
Oh, and why didn't you post this last week, BEFORE I purchased a Link from FM?
Oh, and why didn't you post this last week, BEFORE I purchased a Link from FM?
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02-28-2007, 09:19 PM
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We approached the moderators for permission to post this, which was granted. On the basis that the information would be useful to the forum members, they arranged for our post count to be bumped so that we could post it immediately.
Ben - I'm collating information for a comparison between the G3 and the MiataLink, and will post it shortly, but basically the MiataLink was based on our previous generation of computer, whereas this one is a new beast entirely. Laptop / PC control, all surface-mount components, but not full time closed loop fuel control.
To be fair, the MiataLink is a full plug and play ECU - which comes at a much higher price. This one will still require some tuning etc, but the pricing reflects that. Oh yes, we've also got on-board barometric control.
Sorry about the timing, we're only just starting to ramp up the announcement - hence this posting.
Ben - I'm collating information for a comparison between the G3 and the MiataLink, and will post it shortly, but basically the MiataLink was based on our previous generation of computer, whereas this one is a new beast entirely. Laptop / PC control, all surface-mount components, but not full time closed loop fuel control.
To be fair, the MiataLink is a full plug and play ECU - which comes at a much higher price. This one will still require some tuning etc, but the pricing reflects that. Oh yes, we've also got on-board barometric control.
Sorry about the timing, we're only just starting to ramp up the announcement - hence this posting.
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02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
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Please note - I've just been told that the Flyin Miata has now migrated to (or is in the process of migrating to) another, non-Link, hardware platform, and as such I don't consider that we are qualified to comment on its abilities, and don't want to get drawn into any flaming wars.
For a summary of the differences between this version of the Link LEM and the previous one, please go to:
For a summary of the differences between this version of the Link LEM and the previous one, please go to:
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02-28-2007, 10:15 PM
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It has an on-board MAP sensor, so you wouldn't need yours any more. We do 2.5 and 5 bar options.
It uses the factory air temp sensor, and, if you want, an inlet air temp. sensor, which you can get from us - we do Bosch or Delphi - more details on our web site.
It uses the factory air temp sensor, and, if you want, an inlet air temp. sensor, which you can get from us - we do Bosch or Delphi - more details on our web site.
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02-28-2007, 10:35 PM
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What about any other odd n ends? Boost control solenoid, knock sensor, etc? Did I see on your website that the ecu interfaces with a pyrometer? Is it for logging purposes, or does the ecu use egt as a parameter on it ignition map?
The software looks nice. Would it work with my MiataLink, if I decide to keep it? It looks superior to the DataDogLab that I'd be forced to purchase a license for (which is $99)?
The software looks nice. Would it work with my MiataLink, if I decide to keep it? It looks superior to the DataDogLab that I'd be forced to purchase a license for (which is $99)?
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02-28-2007, 10:42 PM
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The prices of other stuff are shown here
I'm afraid the PCLink software won't work on the MiataLink - the underlying software in it is written by Flyin Miata, and is completely different from ours.
As far as logging pyros go - we don't do that directly, but if you convert the output to a 0-5v analog signal then we can log that.
I'm afraid the PCLink software won't work on the MiataLink - the underlying software in it is written by Flyin Miata, and is completely different from ours.
As far as logging pyros go - we don't do that directly, but if you convert the output to a 0-5v analog signal then we can log that.
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02-28-2007, 11:28 PM
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AWESOME!!! But I think we all need some clarification because I still don't quite understand the relationship between your company and FM. I see some of the parts on your website are direct matches for the FM stuff. Are you the company that makes the MiataLink ECU that FM markets as their own? I knew somebody had to make them. And part of the deal is that previously you've not been allowed to compete with them, only now you are allowed to market it direct? Is it the same thing or not? I know the software is different, what about he hardware?
The FM MiataLink is a great product. If your product does the exact same thing, is as easy to use, has quality support, and is enough cheaper in price... then you'll probably have no problem attracting customers. I think the biggest single turn-off to the MiataLink is the price. I'd love to have one, but for close to $2k when you've added the periferals, NFW!!! If this thing is going to be down in the $1100 range or less for a group buy... I might think about it.
The FM MiataLink is a great product. If your product does the exact same thing, is as easy to use, has quality support, and is enough cheaper in price... then you'll probably have no problem attracting customers. I think the biggest single turn-off to the MiataLink is the price. I'd love to have one, but for close to $2k when you've added the periferals, NFW!!! If this thing is going to be down in the $1100 range or less for a group buy... I might think about it.
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03-01-2007, 10:58 AM
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I don't think FM has any plan to stop selling their version of the link. They are going to the hydra, and development has effectively stopped on their link (there just isn't room for any more code). FM is still going to support the link and assist with tuning, the support is a big factor in why some people choose the link. That why I bought one and spent many $$$.
I really like the display module that is avalible for THIS link. Way beyond what you get from FM. Pretty spendy, but very cool bling.
Nice to see other options.
I really like the display module that is avalible for THIS link. Way beyond what you get from FM. Pretty spendy, but very cool bling.
Nice to see other options.
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03-01-2007, 03:48 PM
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Right - in reply to SpamNavy, here's the story about the relationship between Link and FM.
Link used to make a full plug-in ECU for the MX5 / Miata (effectively part of our 1'st generation range)
FM decided they liked the hardware, but wanted to do their own software, so they bought the units from us, and wrote their own code for it. However, they have now moved to another manufacturer.
Because they used Link's hardware, they also used some of our accessories - such as our Tuning Modules (the handheld tuning module - aka the keypad), KnockLinks, ClampLinks (voltage limiter), SerialLinks (PC - ECU comms unit), and some cabling etc.
Basically, we supply hardware to them, but there is no other connection between the two companies.
Hopefully that clears that up
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As far as support goes, of course, we're based in New Zealand. However, we deal with people world-wide, and we've been told that the level of help we give is a lot better than other manufacturers. We also have dealers in the States, but if you haven't bought our gear from them it would be unfair to expect them to support it at no cost.
Along those lines, we're keen to prove ourselves. We've therefore placed a posting in 'Miata Turbo Forums -> General Miata' for someone willing to install and review the G3 LEM, in return for a free DisplayLink (worth $675 US). Click on the following link to see the full details of the offer.
Link used to make a full plug-in ECU for the MX5 / Miata (effectively part of our 1'st generation range)
FM decided they liked the hardware, but wanted to do their own software, so they bought the units from us, and wrote their own code for it. However, they have now moved to another manufacturer.
Because they used Link's hardware, they also used some of our accessories - such as our Tuning Modules (the handheld tuning module - aka the keypad), KnockLinks, ClampLinks (voltage limiter), SerialLinks (PC - ECU comms unit), and some cabling etc.
Basically, we supply hardware to them, but there is no other connection between the two companies.
Hopefully that clears that up
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As far as support goes, of course, we're based in New Zealand. However, we deal with people world-wide, and we've been told that the level of help we give is a lot better than other manufacturers. We also have dealers in the States, but if you haven't bought our gear from them it would be unfair to expect them to support it at no cost.
Along those lines, we're keen to prove ourselves. We've therefore placed a posting in 'Miata Turbo Forums -> General Miata' for someone willing to install and review the G3 LEM, in return for a free DisplayLink (worth $675 US). Click on the following link to see the full details of the offer.
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someone needs to step up and try it
