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triple88a 10-07-2013 04:56 AM

Free 6 speed (miatanet)
 
No affiliation but hey may be worth to someone.

Dudes asking for someone to install his motor/turbo in exchange for a free 6 speed as a payment.

If anyone wants a 6spd trans please read - MX-5 Miata Forum

joyrider 10-07-2013 11:37 AM

Well if he have a trailer and ready to drive 7 hours north, I can do it next week.

BTMiata 10-07-2013 11:47 AM

Lol I just posted there too... He is an hour and 1/2 North of me I told him that I could help out if he can get the car to my work

WeebleWobble 10-07-2013 01:15 PM

GET IT^ Six speed is tits, a bit loose, but with the six speed and 4.30 my 94vvt is a rocket.


Almost free he wants someone to put his engine and turbo kit in for the 6 speed. Was kinda hoping it was Cali or Vegas local but East coast:(

BTMiata 10-07-2013 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by WeebleWobble (Post 1060367)
GET IT^ Six speed is tits, a bit loose, but with the six speed and 4.30 my 94vvt is a rocket.


Almost free he wants someone to put his engine and turbo kit in for the 6 speed. Was kinda hoping it was Cali or Vegas local but East coast:(

Working on it lol... If he can find a way to get it towed down to me then I will be doing the job and getting the free 6spd and a free blown up 1.8 motor... Which is awesome because I have a scrap yard directly next to my work. Ill throw the motor in a company pick-up and get a couple bucks for the block :vash2:

BTMiata 10-08-2013 08:01 AM

Free 6spd for me! He is bringing the car on Weds... Now I just hope everything goes smooth with the motor swap!

triple88a 10-08-2013 01:45 PM

U doing his turbo too? If so ensure he has everything he needs and isnt bringing u some jacked up bullshit kit with failaids and herpes all over it.

BTMiata 10-08-2013 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1060811)
U doing his turbo too? If so ensure he has everything he needs and isnt bringing u some jacked up bullshit kit with failaids and herpes all over it.

He has a voodooII kit... On links apparently. I am going to write up something and have him sign that I assume no liability for anything that happens to his car

BTMiata 10-09-2013 08:10 PM

Car, new motor/trans are now in my possession. I'llpost pics of the car/turbo set-up tomorrow. Its pretty bad...

Tonight I split the 6spd from the new "used" motor... He said it has 20k on it but judging by the amount of grease on it and torn shifter turret boot... I'd guess it's around 100k. whatever. Im going to throw the new motor in it and throw the turbo kit together and hand him back the keys... Not much I can do other than that. I hope it dosen't blow up on the way home.. I'm 99% sure it's on aids

Fireindc 10-09-2013 08:19 PM

LOL sounds like a shitty situation. Free 6 speed though, woo.

mgeoffriau 10-09-2013 08:20 PM

Please document EVERYTHING about this situation. Both for your own protection and also for our amusement.

BTMiata 10-09-2013 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1061341)
LOL sounds like a shitty situation. Free 6 speed though, woo.

My heart stopped for a few minute's when he dropped it off... Then Ilooked at the 6spd and felt better

turbofan 10-09-2013 08:23 PM

Subbed for failtainment

BTMiata 10-09-2013 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1061344)
Please document EVERYTHING about this situation. Both for your own protection and also for our amusement.

I'llbe taking pictures along the way.... Yeah I really don't need any trouble.. Haven't really thought about it like that lol... Yikes

Fireindc 10-09-2013 08:29 PM

You got this. What kind of band-aids does he have? Just do your best to make it work right with what he has. If he doesn't have a wideband tell him to disconnect the WG because you couldn't possibly tune it, or be sure of its state of tune. If he wants to risk it that's on him.

BTMiata 10-09-2013 09:20 PM

I'm pretty clueless about bandaids... All I know is that it has a stock MAF in line with the intercooler piping, a FPR, tons of red vacuum lines, and a electronic box in the glove box that says Link... Not sure if it works or not

BTMiata 10-10-2013 08:41 AM

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Here we go...

Some pics are blurry... Should have checked em before posting whoops!

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joyrider 10-10-2013 11:45 AM

So old link piggyback, FM old turbo kit with cast mani, poor bolts connecting the turbo those gonna fail, is that 2 extra injectors with a rubber line that will break and spill fuel everywhere ?

Don't ask me how I know the last part.. :(

BTMiata 10-10-2013 12:03 PM

The turbo is welded to the manifold, so that's all I swapped over together lol... Its rough but I should be able to get it running... Hopefully this weekend.. I want it over and done with lol

And wtf is the point of the 2 extra injectors?

shuiend 10-10-2013 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1061607)
And wtf is the point of the 2 extra injectors?

Extra fuel and cooling I believe.

Fireindc 10-10-2013 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1061607)
And wtf is the point of the 2 extra injectors?

The 2 extra injectors are basically an intercooler. :rofl:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...Xcj_dyak0sW7Gd

joyrider 10-10-2013 10:32 PM

Old tech from the 90's, piggyback catch the ignition/timing from the connector, when it sees boost it fires those injectors so no *need* for bigger ones. This way it goes rich in boost and lean and bounce like that.

When I bought the car, it was running something like this, strangely it was working with wideband going full rich too full lean so I told my wife that this engine will need replacement soon and it was good for 2 years of track abuse, EGT we're sky high too. Car was cheap.....

BTMiata 10-11-2013 05:47 PM

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What are the chances that the block is still in tact, and the only damage is the oil pan?!?!?!?!

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turbofan 10-11-2013 05:54 PM

Wtf happened?!?!?!

BTMiata 10-11-2013 06:00 PM

Beats the shit outa me... Lol

I'll know more when I pull it tomorrow. The Flyers are playing tonight hahaha

turbofan 10-11-2013 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1062160)
Beats the shit outa me... Lol

I'll know more when I pull it tomorrow. The Flyers are playing tonight hahaha

I mean, were you driving it and boost and kaboom? Were you jumping it an hit a big bump? Were you humping another Miata and got too excited?

BTMiata 10-11-2013 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1062161)
I mean, were you driving it and boost and kaboom? Were you jumping it an hit a big bump? Were you humping another Miata and got too excited?

Not my car lol this guy gave me a 6spd in exchange for me swapping a new motor in for him. Apparently he was driving it hard when it happened though lol

turbofan 10-11-2013 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1062165)
Not my car lol this guy gave me a 6spd in exchange for me swapping a new motor in for him. Apparently he was driving it hard when it happened though lol

oooooohhhhh I missed that you were swapping out the motor. I knew it wasn't your car but I thought perhaps you had finished the turbo installation and that you were test driving it or something. :noob:

Onyxyth 10-11-2013 06:26 PM

Oh man that looks like a mess. I seriously doubt the oil pan is the only problem. They don't just explode by themselves yaknow

BTMiata 10-11-2013 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1062167)
oooooohhhhh I missed that you were swapping out the motor. I knew it wasn't your car but I thought perhaps you had finished the turbo installation and that you were test driving it or something. :noob:

Haha no worries. Once I have the new motor in I'm leaving the wastegate disconnected... Not risking blowing up his new motor


Originally Posted by Onyxyth (Post 1062171)
Oh man that looks like a mess. I seriously doubt the oil pan is the only problem. They don't just explode by themselves yaknow

Yeah was wondering if just the block might be salvageable but I doubt it... I was thinking future build with forged internals for the future but there's a good chance the block is trash haha

mgeoffriau 10-11-2013 07:03 PM

Eh, you can still scrap the engine for a little extra cash.

BTMiata 10-11-2013 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1062184)
Eh, you can still scrap the engine for a little extra cash.

Yeah thats my plan lol... Plus there are a few parts I can sell separately. The valve cover is polished so someone might want that. I also have all the accessories so there may be a couple bucks there. I'm glad I took on the job it's good practice since I haven't pulled a motorin a few years and I am getting the trans and some cash... Not a bad deal lol

mgeoffriau 10-11-2013 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1062186)
Yeah thats my plan lol... Plus there are a few parts I can sell separately. The valve cover is polished so someone might want that. I also have all the accessories so there may be a couple bucks there. I'm glad I took on the job it's good practice since I haven't pulled a motorin a few years and I am getting the trans and some cash... Not a bad deal lol

Yup, if you strip whatever looks decent and scrap the rest you should end up with a nice bonus. Just make sure you remind the guy that you're doing him a favor by "disposing" of the dead engine.

BTMiata 10-11-2013 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1062187)
Yup, if you strip whatever looks decent and scrap the rest you should end up with a nice bonus. Just make sure you remind the guy that you're doing him a favor by "disposing" of the dead engine.

Yeah he told me to keep everything I want... He just wants his car to run lol

Fireindc 10-11-2013 07:27 PM

LOL, that bottom end is definitely blown dafuqup. This is why you don't run turbo kits with bandaids, kiddo's.

BTMiata 10-12-2013 09:58 PM

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Definitely blowed up pretty good! I'm sort of dragging my feet a little with pulling the motor. Honestly I don't see the point in busting my ass over it. Everything is loose, just have to disconnect one more harness thats between the block and intake manifold. Might have to remove the intake manifold, not sure... Should have the old motor out tomorrow morning and may or may not start swapping in the new motor... We'll see how much pain my back is in once the blown motor is out lol

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1381629496

Fireindc 10-13-2013 01:25 AM

LOL that is some pretty awesome carnage. Tell that fool to fix his tune before his new motor looks exactly like the old one.

cardriverx 10-13-2013 01:43 AM

Hahahaha, damn that is impressive!!

Why didn't the guy just take it to a good shop?

curly 10-13-2013 02:03 AM

I'm guessing he didn't have the $1000 to pay them, and figured it would be easier to trade for the 6 speed like this.

If this was a 1.6 and I had something bigger than a 1 car garage I'd totally do this. And sell the transmission.

Enginerd 10-13-2013 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1062160)
I'll know more when I pull it tomorrow. The Flyers are playing tonight hahaha

:giggle: Flyers? Playing hockey? ...not this year they ain't! :giggle:

BTMiata 10-13-2013 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1062436)
LOL that is some pretty awesome carnage. Tell that fool to fix his tune before his new motor looks exactly like the old one.

Yeah he really does need a tune it seems..


Originally Posted by cardriverx (Post 1062439)
Hahahaha, damn that is impressive!!

Why didn't the guy just take it to a good shop?

Yeah like Curley said, he just didn't have money. Shops didn't want to touch it because of the turbo kit. If they did the job and he drove down the road and it blows up, he would have a case against the shop cause they did the swap. He really needed someone to do this as a personal favor I guess..


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1062440)
I'm guessing he didn't have the $1000 to pay them, and figured it would be easier to trade for the 6 speed like this.

If this was a 1.6 and I had something bigger than a 1 car garage I'd totally do this. And sell the transmission.

Yeah I have NO 1.8 experience, let alone any NB experience... so a lot of this car is new to me. Learning as I go and I'm glad to gain some know-how though!


Originally Posted by Enginerd (Post 1062473)
:giggle: Flyers? Playing hockey? ...not this year they ain't! :giggle:


Pshhhhh don't even want to talk about it... At the time I posted that they were 3-1 and I felt like there was still a spec of hope to get on the right track. With every single new loss it starts looking more and more like a train-wreck of a season. I actually had high hopes for this year too :vash:

BTMiata 10-13-2013 02:25 PM

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Accomplished some more today... Just finished pulling the motor, and stripped all of the wiring harness off of the new motor. Just need to swap the 5spd over to the new motor, and swap the iac valve form the old motor onto the new motor (New motor came with a broken one). Hoping to have the motor back in by next Saturday morning! Can't wait to have it out of my hair lol

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triple88a 10-13-2013 03:02 PM

Might as well swap the entire TB on there no?

BTMiata 10-13-2013 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1062528)
Might as well swap the entire TB on there no?

Well I'm not certain it's the Iac now that I think about it... Its a little valve that is mounted to the lower portion of the intake manifold is does something with the butterfly valves in the intake mani..

On another note...

Should I A.) keep the 6spd and use it or...

B.) sell the 6spd so I can buy the final couple parts for my turbo setup (ID Injectors, and a boost gauge)

Also... Is there any real benefit of the 6spd over my ~70k miles 91' 5spd? Is it stronger? I remember reading that the 6th gear really dosent drop rpm's all that much vs the 5spds 5th gear?!?! Did I hear wrong?

curly 10-13-2013 06:13 PM

6spd shifts worse and smashes the gears closer together, but otherwise 6th=5th gear of the 5spd box. Only really useful when you have the final drive to utilize the 6spd, and the power to blow up the 5spd.

Yes it's stronger, but if you're not racing or making enough power to blow up the 5spd, I'd sell it.

triple88a 10-13-2013 06:26 PM

I love my 6 speed. No issues with shifting vs my old 5 speed. Definitely nicer in the cold since the gears are closer together.

BTMiata 10-13-2013 06:28 PM

I'm torn.... I guess I'm not in a rush for my final parts cause I probably won't put the car together until spring... I'll probably just hang onto it over the winter and make up my mind. I also have to see how much $$ I make between scrapping the blown block and selling all of the accessories

Fireindc 10-13-2013 06:31 PM

I'd keep the 6er, then again I'm building a bottom end for more powahh.

BTMiata 10-13-2013 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1062554)
I'd keep the 6er, then again I'm building a bottom end for more powahh.

I should sell the 6spd and buy a 1.8 lol

BTMiata 10-14-2013 08:05 AM

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Anyone know what this is or what it does?

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JStoops 10-14-2013 09:28 AM

Actuator that operates the butterfly valves in the intake manifold.

BTMiata 10-14-2013 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by JStoops (Post 1062675)
Actuator that operates the butterfly valves in the intake manifold.

Figured it was something like that lol

BTMiata 10-16-2013 07:14 PM

Is there any chance that the cylinder head would have any damage from the bottom end blowing up? I'll probably keep that to sell separately instead of scrapping it... Providing there is nothing wrong with it

duffbuster243 10-17-2013 08:39 AM

There may be some gouging in the combustion area, or bent valves, but most likely that will be a worse case scenario.

BTMiata 10-17-2013 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by duffbuster243 (Post 1063852)
There may be some gouging in the combustion area, or bent valves, but most likely that will be a worse case scenario.

Cool thanks.. I'll give it a once over when I have his car back to him and I get some time to start tearing into the motor.

BTMiata 10-19-2013 08:14 AM

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Ok so I need to tap the oil pan for the return... Haven't done this before. My drill is wayy too small to accept this huge 37/64 drill bit. I took the bit to home depot with the intent to pick out a drill that would work, and return it after I used it (Dick move, but I dont want to buy a $200 drill just to get this job done) ... Anyway I couldn't even find a drill that was large enough to accept this ginormous bit. Is there an adapter or something I can use to accept this bit into an ordinary drill?

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duffbuster243 10-19-2013 08:34 AM

If it were me I would just grind the end that drill bit down until it fit into that drill.

BTMiata 10-19-2013 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by duffbuster243 (Post 1064619)
If it were me I would just grind the end that drill bit down until it fit into that drill.

Thought about that but I dont want the bit to wobble

duffbuster243 10-19-2013 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1064620)
Thought about that but I dont want the bit to wobble

Drill a hole in the pan with the largest bit your drill will fit first. Even if it wobbles at that point it will be guided in if you drill slow. you will be through the oil pan in about 10 seconds anyway. This is thin soft aluminum we are talking about. If you are uneasy about it, practice on the old pan.

BTMiata 10-19-2013 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by duffbuster243 (Post 1064621)
Drill a hole in the pan with the largest bit your drill will fit first. Even if it wobbles at that point it will be guided in if you drill slow. you will be through the oil pan in about 10 seconds anyway. This is thin soft aluminum we are talking about. If you are uneasy about it, practice on the old pan.

Yeah I have a small pilot hole drilled already. Great tip with the old pan though, I'm definitely going to do that. Time to grind down the bit, thanks for the tip!


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