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Old 09-02-2009, 11:29 AM   #1
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Default Lindsey Racing Thermal Hardpipe air/water pre/intercooler

Well, I've had this part for almost two years now, and never got around to using it, and I need $$ to buy tires for my new rims. It's a miniature 6" air/water intercooler that is designed as a pre-cooler for air/air intercoolers in Porsche. It's a very neat an unusual design, since it offers almost zero air restriction, has 8 coolant feeds on either end, and is super small. It would be a great addition installed on the hot side of some high horsepower miata. All you need is a pump and reservoir. I paid $300 for this. Asking $120US. Shipping to the US will probably be in the $20 range.
Here's a link that explains how it works:
HOW IT WORKS at LINDSEY RACING - Your Porsche Performance Parts Center
Here's a configuration where they used two of them, one before intercooler, and one after. You only have to use one of the coolant feeds/returns if you want to:


Here's the actual product


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Very cool. Lindsey builds good stuff. I used to visit their website often back when I had my 944.
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that looks very restrictive people actualy put that in there intake?
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interesting, whats the size of the inlet\oulet 2.5 or 3 inch?
Didn't see it
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It's 2 3/4 inch in diameter. Could use some reducer couplings to mate it up to either a 3" or a 2.5"
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that looks very restrictive people actualy put that in there intake?
Well it's straight through with no mesh, and it goes on the hot side of your charge pipe.
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i wonder if it will do crap on n/a car...
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i wonder if it will do crap on n/a car...
It will do exactly crap on an n/a car.

Coolant is almost certainly warmer than ambient.... You just invented the concet of an interheater.
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It will do exactly crap on an n/a car.

Coolant is almost certainly warmer than ambient.... You just invented the concet of an interheater.
yay for invention! if only laws of physics wouldnt apply to my car :/
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It will do exactly crap on an n/a car.

Coolant is almost certainly warmer than ambient.... You just invented the concet of an interheater.
Well not necesarily. If you have a seperate reservoir with some coolant in it, and a heat spreader (like an oil cooler), then you can get the coolant very cool.
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Well not necesarily. If you have a seperate reservoir with some coolant in it, and a heat spreader (like an oil cooler), then you can get the coolant very cool.
Cooler than ambient? Really?
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Cooler than ambient? Really?
We had a PWR air/water intercooler in a Toyota Starlett (weird RHD import), and the charge pipe after it was actually cold to touch and condensing. It was ridiculous. As long as you have a bunch of air going over the heat spreader, and a big enough coolant reservoir, then you're golden.

So does anyone want to buy this yet?

This is normally what we use on air/water setups as a cooler:
http://www.bmracing.com/PRODUCTS/Uni...TU-11x11x1-1-2
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I want, but broke, interesting would like to see how effective it is on a turbo miata vs a fmic
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So who's going to volunteer, in the name of MT. net.
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Cooler than ambient? Really?
****, I hope.
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I want, but broke, interesting would like to see how effective it is on a turbo miata vs a fmic
ima have to say not unless you dont plan on more than 180 whp or so.
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****, I hope.
What do you get if you hope in one hand and **** in the other?

A handful of ****.


Please explain how an intercooler can cool charge temp to be less than ambient air temp, or, in other words, be more than 100% efficient. No points for suggesting ice on the IC, in the awic reservoir, or using water/meth injection.
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What do you get if you hope in one hand and **** in the other?

A handful of ****.


Please explain how an intercooler can cool charge temp to be less than ambient air temp, or, in other words, be more than 100% efficient. No points for suggesting ice on the IC, in the awic reservoir, or using water/meth injection.
reread for satire.
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It will do exactly crap on an n/a car.

Coolant is almost certainly warmer than ambient.... You just invented the concet of an interheater.
only a moron would connect an intercooler to a heat source.
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I always thought it was weird when people hook air/water intercoolers to engine coolant...


I wonder how effective this thing is compared to a normal air/water intercooler. it may be helpful as a pre-intercooler, or on a low boost setup like mine. hmmm
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