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IcantDo55 06-11-2019 01:42 PM

When installing the front bar, did you guys keep the hood latch? Is the lower support needed if you do?

matrussell122 06-11-2019 01:46 PM

It is not needed. I ran without it for quite some time before i went to hood pins.

IcantDo55 06-11-2019 02:55 PM

So much room.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1c37ce25e3.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...64dd57b7f9.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...567c0e0ff1.jpg

FrankB 06-12-2019 06:04 PM

Will cutting out that center support cause rigidity issues on the track or if you have to use the front tow hook?

Scaxx 06-13-2019 02:11 AM

My car adds an extra variable of being seam welded, but I've run without it for a long time and never noticed it. There's a bit of discussion either in the diy aero thread or weight loss thread (I don't remember which) and the conclusion was that it was pretty much negligible. I've also used my tow hook in a couple of occasions and never had a problem.

matrussell122 06-14-2019 03:52 PM

Things are moving along

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ff6c13870c.jpg

matrussell122 06-14-2019 05:10 PM

To gauge rear bar interest here is another list

NA Rear Bar
  1. Arca_ex
  2. Deckard
  3. DooChess
  4. Austin Dubiel (jacking point prefered)
  5. L337TurboZ
  6. Midtenn
  7. Ben AZ
  8. f_rank
  9. GB Spectrum friends
  10. GB Spectrum friends

Front Bar
  1. ViRtUaLheretic
  2. L337TurboZ
  3. Alienmiata1
  4. Alienmiata1
  5. Midtenn
  6. Efini~FC3S
  7. f_rank
  8. Mobius
  9. GB Spectrum friends
  10. GB Spectrum friends
NB Rear Bar

matrussell122 06-28-2019 11:18 PM

Some bars primed and ready to go out monday. Should have the rears done early next week! Thanks all you guys for you support, input and patience!

Also ignore my hi tech paint booth.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7ebb9bcb7c.jpg

L337TurboZ 07-13-2019 06:39 AM

Got my parts in the mail a few days ago. They look good and will post pictures once installed.

matrussell122 07-18-2019 09:44 AM

Everyone left on the list that ordered or wants a bar, I will have made and ready for paint Friday. Once painted the ones that have been paid for will ship out on Saturday/Monday.


Also ordering a bunch more material so if anyone else wants a bar or pair of bars send me a PM!

matrussell122 08-05-2019 01:53 PM

Anyone have installed picture of their bars front or rear they want to post up?

Still making these so anyone that hasnt got on this train message me and lets get you some bars!

L337TurboZ 08-05-2019 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1544543)
Anyone have installed picture of their bars front or rear they want to post up?

Still making these so anyone that hasnt got on this train message me and lets get you some bars!

Still haven't installed mine but I could do a write up for it in a week or two. I'll be taking vacation to swap the motor in my Speed 3 and was going to do the bars/bumper cut at the same time.

ViRtUaLheretic 08-05-2019 05:22 PM

Finally got around to installing mine last weekend
Sorry for the glare, it was obviously really sunny and hot.
To coincide with the new front bar I also installed a set of push button Quik-Latches in the bumper to secure near the fender as the old plastic tabs have since snapped off.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7b67c6d787.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ded33c8d07.jpg

scissor 08-05-2019 10:14 PM

Here's mine with radiator ducting in place.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1a23a6c168.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...514fb6398c.jpg

FrankB 08-06-2019 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by scissor (Post 1544608)
Here's mine with radiator ducting in place.

What material is your ducting made of?

scissor 08-06-2019 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by FrankB (Post 1544630)
What material is your ducting made of?

Nothing fancy: coroplast, aluminum angle, and rivets. Sealed it up with gorilla tape.

matrussell122 08-15-2019 04:16 PM

More material should be in tomorrow so if you want to get a bar now is the time!

matrussell122 08-16-2019 10:40 AM

The front bars had a slight revision this round to drop a little more weight and gain some extra clearance around the blinker. So all front bars form here on out will have the updated plate design.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b06fc10c24.jpg

stevos555 08-19-2019 08:23 AM

weight reduction - 1/2 lbs? i have not yet installed the original. I guess the end plates could be trimmed.

Stealth97 08-19-2019 08:46 AM

That looks great!

P5yko 09-01-2019 12:28 AM

Interested in ordering a front and possibly rear bar for NA, how do I go about it?

Thanks!

matrussell122 09-23-2019 12:43 PM

If anyone wants front or rear bars I can have some made and bring them to WRLS in a couple weeks.

Heitzke 09-23-2019 06:47 PM

I'm interested in a front bar as well - love to go ahead and pick one up

stevos555 09-23-2019 09:19 PM

Quick question about the front bar plates. Why are they slotted ?

matrussell122 09-23-2019 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by stevos555 (Post 1550026)
Quick question about the front bar plates. Why are they slotted ?

To allow for misalignment variatons between chassis.

Miata.SharK 09-24-2019 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1546021)
The front bars had a slight revision this round to drop a little more weight and gain some extra clearance around the blinker. So all front bars form here on out will have the updated plate design.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b06fc10c24.jpg

Any chance you're interested in selling both front and rear 3D and technical drawings? It is not the best idea here in EU to buy some non-standard sizes items oversea...

matrussell122 11-11-2019 12:19 PM

Found some of the older blem plates from the first batch of front bars. They will need a hole drilled 1" off of where the slot is but are 100% functional. Have 3 available for $150, Also have 9 of the updated front bars for $175.

Have a bunch of stuff for NA rear bars so if you want one of those just message me and ill make you a good deal.

doward 12-16-2019 10:05 AM

Are these now being sold through Left Lane Designs?

I need/want an NB front.

Padlock 12-16-2019 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by doward (Post 1557295)
Are these now being sold through Left Lane Designs?

I need/want an NB front.

That is correct. PM incoming.

Malic 02-26-2020 12:14 AM

Looking to get one of these for an NA as well.

Z33Taxi 02-26-2020 12:41 AM

Just checking, do you have to cut out the front metal structure for this to work? On a NB

Padlock 02-26-2020 08:32 AM

You don't "have to"

You could simply unbolt factory parts and bolt this in for a weight reduction. Part of the beauty of this though is it allows better ability to duct to your radiator IF you cut out the front metal structure. Scroll through the thread and you can see various installs.

matrussell122 03-03-2020 02:22 PM

Just got a new batch of plates so have a bunch of bars available!

NA/NB Front bar $175 Shipped CONUS

NA Rear Bar $160 Shipped CONUS

Austin Lee 03-07-2020 11:07 PM

I'm interested in a front bar! I'll take a blem one if you still have any, otherwise the updated version is fine!

matrussell122 03-19-2020 11:47 PM

Still making these through the Corona virus. Get your orders in!

levnubhin 03-28-2020 11:13 PM

I'll take one. PM sent

albuquerquefx 03-30-2020 04:05 PM

Don't suppose you'd want to mock one up for the NC crowd? The face of mine has been off for a year now, I've got plenty of time to send you pics, measurements, whatever. :) I'd be really interested in opening up my intercooler and my future oil cooler location too...

thebaseisdown 03-31-2020 02:21 PM

PM Sent

matrussell122 04-09-2020 10:27 AM

Got a fresh batch of materials in so I lots of bars ready to go out in short order!

Z33Taxi 04-11-2020 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1566562)
Got a fresh batch of materials in so I lots of bars ready to go out in short order!

Can you put me down as a possible for a NB front? Was the price including shipping?

Kinavo 04-12-2020 06:34 PM

Matrussell, PM sent on MT.net.

Ted75zcar 04-12-2020 09:00 PM

Modded to mount Setrab series 1 60-row, NA.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f3aca9de64.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...472c637b00.jpg

stevos555 04-12-2020 09:26 PM

Did you box section the bar to the frame rail?

sixshooter 04-13-2020 07:56 AM

Are you putting a little foam along the front edge of the bar to get an airtight seal to the bumper skin?

famousamos56 04-13-2020 06:57 PM

Bar arrived quickly and in great shape. Thanks!

Ted75zcar 04-13-2020 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by stevos555 (Post 1566905)
Did you box section the bar to the frame rail?

it looks like I might have, but I didn't. The assembly comes off in 2 parts.

Ted75zcar 04-13-2020 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1566931)
Are you putting a little foam along the front edge of the bar to get an airtight seal to the bumper skin?

probably not, the bar gets really close to the bumper. I also have an opening cut in the top of the bumper, which supplies fresh air to the top half of the radiator.

Padlock 04-13-2020 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ted75zcar (Post 1567028)
probably not, the bar gets really close to the bumper. I also have an opening cut in the top of the bumper, which supplies fresh air to the top half of the radiator.

so then how exactly is the oil cooler getting any airflow with this design?

Ted75zcar 04-13-2020 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Padlock (Post 1567029)
so then how exactly is the oil cooler getting any airflow with this design?

it is in a "7" or "v-mount" configuration, air moves from the bottom cavity to the top cavity. The high pressure side (bottom) is essentially sealed to a modified (slightly larger) stock opening.

Ted75zcar 04-13-2020 10:57 PM

Maybe this will help clarify.

I don't really want to jack this thread anymore, just wanted to provide another example of how this part can be used.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...79dda69a7d.png


Padlock 04-13-2020 11:00 PM

Edit: Pictured clarified old response

matrussell122 04-22-2020 04:03 PM

Bumpidy bump bump

matrussell122 05-05-2020 05:55 PM

I have 2 bars boxed and ready for quick ship.

Z33Taxi 05-05-2020 07:06 PM

I received my bar today. It was a beauty!

Lokiel 05-18-2020 09:41 AM

Installed mine recently on my Aussie MSM with alternate ducting solution: Alternate Ducting Solution
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1b970e5c45.jpg


Lokiel 05-19-2020 12:06 AM

For those looking for a centre number-plate mounting solution with this bar:

I didn't want to drill holes through the OEM bumper and noted that the rear of the new bar cleared the mounted OEM MSM bumper so I could mount my existing aftermarket MX5-Plus number plate mount there somehow.
https://i.postimg.cc/Qx5kBMLt/01-Rea...Of-Bracket.jpg

The green tape on the number plate was used as a reference point, the right edge being the centre of the plate.

I made a couple of 40mm x 3mm aluminium L-brackets to mount to the existing number plate bracket and a couple of double-width galvanised brakets to wrap around the bar and mount the L-brackets to:

https://i.postimg.cc/6pfr01px/02-Rear-Brackets.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/pLHQKtxB/02-5-Clamped-Up.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/YSX1cGFX/03-Bar...ts-Mounted.jpg

I wrapped the bar with a couple of layers of black tape where the galvanised brackets attach to to give them some grip on the bar. With the aluminium rear brackets pop-riveted to them, they don't move/slide at all.

I spent a LOT of time measuring everything up, installing/removing the front bumper multiple times, only to find that it's slightly crooked. Luckily it's only by a few mm so can be easily fixed (hopefully just by bending the original bracket a bit):

https://i.postimg.cc/hG493bXz/04-Mou...-Down-View.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/B6X2JScJ/05-Mounted-Front-View.jpg

For the number plate to comfortably clear the front of mounted bumper bar, the distance between the rear of the bar and the number plate must be at least 65mm.

I'm currently giving the bar a couple of resprays (painting the front of the galvanised brackets in the process) and will trim off the un-needed end sections of the original bracket.


matrussell122 07-05-2020 12:20 PM

Bump. Have a good amount of material ready to make some bars.

RS.UGOKU 07-12-2020 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1575449)
Bump. Have a good amount of material ready to make some bars.

Interested! Sent you a PM.

matrussell122 07-29-2020 08:50 AM

Currently have one bar ready for quick ship. Typically there is a 4-5 day lead time so get this one while you can!

matrussell122 07-29-2020 01:38 PM

One of our original bars being put to use by another forum member. If anyone ever wondered about the strength this should reassure you.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...2020-07-25.jpg


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