MIATAROADSTER 3.3:1 RING AND PINION GROUP BUY
It's an interesting situation, but I completely understand where Bill is coming from. I bet it took a lot of guts to write that email.
Still, though...day dreaming of a big turbo, 6spd 3.3 blast down Highway1. I'll probably stay in it. I have some guitars I need to sell, anyway.
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After looking at the gearing calculator again, it's still what i want for my car. So i'm staying in.
I have a feeling i can get them installed for only a couple hundred bucks. I hope with people backing out that the price won't get much above $750. I know i'm paying for a custom part at this point, but there is a limit.
I also have a lot more faith in US manufactures. Though time will tell.
The worst part is the wait. Bill said 4 months from when he places the order. I'm not sure if that's 4 months until he gets some gears to test, or 4 months until the testing will be complete and we get sent some. Hell, they could show up before my tecna coilovers.
I have a feeling i can get them installed for only a couple hundred bucks. I hope with people backing out that the price won't get much above $750. I know i'm paying for a custom part at this point, but there is a limit.
I also have a lot more faith in US manufactures. Though time will tell.
The worst part is the wait. Bill said 4 months from when he places the order. I'm not sure if that's 4 months until he gets some gears to test, or 4 months until the testing will be complete and we get sent some. Hell, they could show up before my tecna coilovers.
I cant imagine having them in my hands until April or May anyways. If any earlier than that I would be happily surprised.
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So i had a brief talk with my "my guy" from besnik engine design (the guy who built my engine) about Cryogenic treating. I was a little curious as in the recent email it stated that Cryogenic treating was at -150F.
I got this information, i'll just quote:
The email didn't say anything about re tempering afterwords either.
Obviously i asked how much his -300F treatment would cost. He said it depends, because liquid nitrogen is expensive he likes to utilize as much of it as possible. If i were to just do my parts and needed them right away it could cost me up to $140. He likes to combine parts and do multiples at a time which if i waited i could spend as little as $60.
Hell, if everyone got their gears cryo treated he could do a batch run with quick turn around for very minimal price. He also noted that retreating them to -300 wouldn't hurt the finish at all after already being "sub cryo" treated.
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I got this information, i'll just quote:
Well, that process is referred to as "sub cryogenic" treatment, and honestly just about anyone with half a brain can do it with dry ice and some alcohol. It does offer some enhancements to the metal, however it will not reach to the core like -300 will. Basically it will treat the surface and penetrate a minimal amount, but that is the extent. There are a few phenomenons that occur at -300, which sub cryo cannot duplicate. It is also important to note the sub cryo will loose its properties if the part is machined again. With deep cryo, it is a one time treatment, that's to the core, and will last the life of the part.
Obviously i asked how much his -300F treatment would cost. He said it depends, because liquid nitrogen is expensive he likes to utilize as much of it as possible. If i were to just do my parts and needed them right away it could cost me up to $140. He likes to combine parts and do multiples at a time which if i waited i could spend as little as $60.
Hell, if everyone got their gears cryo treated he could do a batch run with quick turn around for very minimal price. He also noted that retreating them to -300 wouldn't hurt the finish at all after already being "sub cryo" treated.
Read here:
XceedSpeed
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Bill,
While this is taking a long time, I would like to say a word of thanks for rejecting substandard products, rather than shipping them out to us, your customers. I hope you will keep us updated as often as you can of whatever developments occur.
Bruce
While this is taking a long time, I would like to say a word of thanks for rejecting substandard products, rather than shipping them out to us, your customers. I hope you will keep us updated as often as you can of whatever developments occur.
Bruce
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update
Thanks for the kind words.
Many people asked for refunds when the price went up for the US-made parts and I'm now awaiting a re-quote from the manufacturer.
Thanks for your patience!
Bill
Many people asked for refunds when the price went up for the US-made parts and I'm now awaiting a re-quote from the manufacturer.
Thanks for your patience!
Bill
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The first 5 gears will be very similar to what I had with a 5-speed and a 3.909 rear end. I found that to be a great set of ratios with 250 hp. That all worked great until I turned the boost up to 300 hp and started grenading 5-speeds. I think that 6th gear will be mostly a gear suitable for cruising on level ground.
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The first 5 gears will be very similar to what I had with a 5-speed and a 3.909 rear end. I found that to be a great set of ratios with 250 hp. That all worked great until I turned the boost up to 300 hp and started grenading 5-speeds. I think that 6th gear will be mostly a gear suitable for cruising on level ground.
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I just wish things would either fall through or hurry up and get done already. I'm almost to the point where I could use the money and get other things for the coming season.
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