Wideband CAN interface
This means that unless I have your exact MTS serial chain here on the bench to test (which I don't), then I probably can't make it work.
I did make it work for a chain of 1x LM-1 and 4x LC-1s - the protocol used was somewhat different to what Innovate said it should be, again it wouldn't had worked if I didn't have these available to test.
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I tried to do this, however the innovate protocol is Innovate's own products is not followed down to the T.
This means that unless I have your exact MTS serial chain here on the bench to test (which I don't), then I probably can't make it work.
I did make it work for a chain of 1x LM-1 and 4x LC-1s - the protocol used was somewhat different to what Innovate said it should be, again it wouldn't had worked if I didn't have these available to test.
This means that unless I have your exact MTS serial chain here on the bench to test (which I don't), then I probably can't make it work.
I did make it work for a chain of 1x LM-1 and 4x LC-1s - the protocol used was somewhat different to what Innovate said it should be, again it wouldn't had worked if I didn't have these available to test.
Thanks for the info Reverant.
-Raj
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Currently supported widebands:
- Innovate LC-1, LC-2, MTX-L
- AEM UEGO 30-4100, 30-2310
- Zeitronix ZT-2
Pending compatibility: PLX SM-AFR Gen2 and Gen3 (we have these on the bench right now, so its only a matter of days).
Do you have a different wideband and you want the module but your wideband is not supported? PM me and I'll see if I can get it added!
- Innovate LC-1, LC-2, MTX-L
- AEM UEGO 30-4100, 30-2310
- Zeitronix ZT-2
Pending compatibility: PLX SM-AFR Gen2 and Gen3 (we have these on the bench right now, so its only a matter of days).
Do you have a different wideband and you want the module but your wideband is not supported? PM me and I'll see if I can get it added!
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Oscar I think UrbanSoot was referring to how the PCB was secured inside of the enclosure, not how to secure the module to the vehicle chassis.
I haven't taken mine apart to see what it looks like inside. I did take a peek inside my MS3 and it looks like any other hobby level controller so I wouldn't have high expectations for OEM-level robustness in the design of the CAN module, either. This is why you have to mount your ECU inside the car to protect it from the elements. And this is also why it's probably a good idea to do what you can to dampen vibration with foam placed strategically between chassis and enclosure, especially if you have really stiff suspension.
I haven't taken mine apart to see what it looks like inside. I did take a peek inside my MS3 and it looks like any other hobby level controller so I wouldn't have high expectations for OEM-level robustness in the design of the CAN module, either. This is why you have to mount your ECU inside the car to protect it from the elements. And this is also why it's probably a good idea to do what you can to dampen vibration with foam placed strategically between chassis and enclosure, especially if you have really stiff suspension.
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I know exactly what he's talking about, but thanks for your concern. I have the same module with 1 open end where the pcb can slide out. Securing to the chassis would be the easiest to figure out.
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I've secured it with some masking tape for the time being, but that definitely needs to be fixed properly. I think I'll just design something and have it 3D printed.
As for securing things to the chassis - I use 4" wide velcro. It secures things really well and it dampens a lot of the vibrations.
As for securing things to the chassis - I use 4" wide velcro. It secures things really well and it dampens a lot of the vibrations.
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is the decrease in latency and noise gained by switch to a CAN communication Lamda going to be noticeable at all? I understand digital is better but is it worth the cost and complexity?
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I felt it was, but that may just me.
We discussed this over in the https://www.miataturbo.net/ms-labs-m...ms-labs-69930/ thread, with some additional detail as well.
We discussed this over in the https://www.miataturbo.net/ms-labs-m...ms-labs-69930/ thread, with some additional detail as well.
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Reverant, I am not at my work pc but am very interested in this unit as well. If you get a chance to pm me the cost etc...
I notice what you said about the innovate protocol being slightly different so presume this wont work in line with AIM dash either?
I notice what you said about the innovate protocol being slightly different so presume this wont work in line with AIM dash either?
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Has anyone ever seen a UEGO (30-4100) not output anything on the serial line? I get voltage on the analog line, but zip over digital. The MS3 gives 7.5 for the AFR when set to CAN EGO. and I can't get anything over my serial adapter. I made sure that pin 2 is what my adapter is expecting for data.
Also, on a MS3 basic built with the can module, what input pin is the OEM analog o2 sensor pin wired to? (4W on a 2001)
Also, on a MS3 basic built with the can module, what input pin is the OEM analog o2 sensor pin wired to? (4W on a 2001)
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Has anyone ever seen a UEGO (30-4100) not output anything on the serial line? I get voltage on the analog line, but zip over digital. The MS3 gives 7.5 for the AFR when set to CAN EGO. and I can't get anything over my serial adapter. I made sure that pin 2 is what my adapter is expecting for data.
Also, on a MS3 basic built with the can module, what input pin is the OEM analog o2 sensor pin wired to? (4W on a 2001)
Also, on a MS3 basic built with the can module, what input pin is the OEM analog o2 sensor pin wired to? (4W on a 2001)
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