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Old 11-27-2010, 02:16 AM   #1
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Default Looking for a 2001-2005 1.8 tune for my MSPNP

Putting a late NB motor in my 1990, does anyone have a tune that I can pop into my MSPNP to get it running?

Not quite sure where to look for this, didn't find it though.
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:52 AM   #2
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The base tune will be fine, especially for a start up tune to just get you going.
Are you running a VVTuner as well?
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The base tune will be fine, especially for a start up tune to just get you going.
Are you running a VVTuner as well?
The 1.6 tune I'm running will get the engine started and idling? It'll control the different IAC well?

VVTuner... not sure if I want to do that. Looked up the installation instructions, and it says to splice into a bunch of wires. I have no idea where to find those wires and it doesn't say. I'll eventually get it, I'm just not sure how I'd install it.

Have an email out to DIY, I'll probably have more of an answer when they get back.
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Got the email back from DIYAutotune...

He wasn't even sure if I needed to put the cam angle sensor on the 01-05 engine. Said there wasn't a tune for a 01-05 engine on the MSPNP. Said I'd be on my own as far as wiring up the VVTuner...

This is looking bleak.
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IIRC, isn't the MS3 daughterboard cheaper than the VVTuner anyways, and it has VVT support onboard?

/Don't kill me for being a noob. Please?
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IIRC, isn't the MS3 daughterboard cheaper than the VVTuner anyways, and it has VVT support onboard?

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MS3 currently has no code for VVT control.
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Ahh, my bad. MS3 is going to get native VVT support, it doesn't currently have it.
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Ahh, my bad. MS3 is going to get native VVT support, it doesn't currently have it.
Get your coding fingers to work and make it happen. :P
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Get your coding fingers to work and make it happen. :P
Sure. Get me an '01 engine.

/Is actually serious.
//If MS3 doesn't have VVT working by the time I get the '01 six-eight months from now, I'll start on it.
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Sure. Get me an '01 engine.

/Is actually serious.
//If MS3 doesn't have VVT working by the time I get the '01 six-eight months from now, I'll start on it.
I'll get you one. I'm putting it in my car. Come on down here.
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I'll get you one. I'm putting it in my car. Come on down here.
For some reason, I think VVT may require a bit more than a day or two to get working Nagase ;p.
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For some reason, I think VVT may require a bit more than a day or two to get working Nagase ;p.
Ok, ok, I'll let you borrow my car for a week to get it setup... I'm so nice.
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Ok, ok, I'll let you borrow my car for a week to get it setup... I'm so nice.


I fear you underestimate the difficulty of the VVT setup .
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I fear you underestimate the difficulty of the VVT setup .
It's not that expensive. I got a 32k mile VVT engine with accessories, alternator, exhaust, intake, downpipe, wiring harness, front subframe, another set of fuel rail with injectors and a steering rack for 700$.

Of course by the time you're done all of this is irrelivant... since I will in no way want to play with wires again. -.-

Plus side, getting used to wires gets me ready for a rotary swap later...
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Hah. I've actually already specced out a clean rotary swap for a 13BRE.

But yeah, let me know where to locate said VVT engine, I'll be all over that.
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Hah. I've actually already specced out a clean rotary swap for a 13BRE.

But yeah, let me know where to locate said VVT engine, I'll be all over that.
Put together a wiring harness adaptor for a 13b into a Miata and I'm all over it. That's the only thing stopping me, other than the exhaust.
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Put together a wiring harness adaptor for a 13b into a Miata and I'm all over it. That's the only thing stopping me, other than the exhaust.
The exhaust is easy.

Realistically, there's no way to get around the wiring other than doing it yourself.

Still, did you pick up your $700 '01 on eBay? Or what?
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The exhaust is easy.

Realistically, there's no way to get around the wiring other than doing it yourself.

Still, did you pick up your $700 '01 on eBay? Or what?
Would you adapt the 7 harness to the miata or the miata harness to the 7?

At one point I had an FC and a Miata shell both sitting there and waiting for this... stuff came up. FC harness + stripped out shell would have been easy enough, but to keep heat/ac worried me.
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Honestly? I wouldn't do either. But I'm a bit better than most with wiring.

What I planned on doing was stripping both looms, and take relevant connectors, then proceed to build a new loom with the old connectors plus new ones. If I had access to what you did, I'd have been able to get the harness done in a single weekend at most.

But I also planned to use a 13BRE, and not a Fail Chariot's powerplant . (Edit) Don't get me wrong, I have two FC's. But the 13B in the second gens were (at least IMO) the worst rotaries made from the 12A to the Renesis.
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Honestly? I wouldn't do either. But I'm a bit better than most with wiring.

What I planned on doing was stripping both looms, and take relevant connectors, then proceed to build a new loom with the old connectors plus new ones. If I had access to what you did, I'd have been able to get the harness done in a single weekend at most.

But I also planned to use a 13BRE, and not a Fail Chariot's powerplant . (Edit) Don't get me wrong, I have two FC's. But the 13B in the second gens were (at least IMO) the worst rotaries made from the 12A to the Renesis.
... so how much to send you two harnesses and make them play together?

You don't like the six port or the four port? I was planning to just pop in a six port to get going, then eventually get a hybrid housing setup with cosmo or rew parts, big street port and shoot for 230whp NA...
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