I would think you'd be best served to get a wilwood kit for the ND, then just put PFC pads in that.

Or go with the GWR stuff.

I would agree. Best option and what survives track abuse is our 12.88" BBK and then you've got the best thermal capacity plus affordable pads moving forward. You can put baller pads in the factory brakes, but the brake system is still limited; we can warp a set of standard rotors in one day at a brake-heavy track.

(End thread hijack)

you can hijack all you want. pads are about consistency. a good quality pad in a stock system will still be very consistent. larger rotors and better calipers are about reducing drag and increasing parts longevity (reducing operating cost)

PFC ZR94 Calipers Show Their True Versatility


Driver Tom Patton in his Sunbeam Tiger took home the SCCA GT-2 Conference Championship title back in May with PFC's ZR34 caliper package.

Patton will soon equip PFC's all new ZR94 caliper for his Sunbeam--a new and improved version of the ZR34. The new ZR94 features an internal fluid crossover tube, adding strength and weight while also providing a weight savings.
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This caliper fits several short track dirt and asphalt applications, as well as those such as Patton's Sunbeam.

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(In response to Johnny showing off his sweet TTU season ultra championship trophy thanks to PFC race pads! But that post is gone.)


Sorry but that proves absolutely nothing about the pads when you could have accomplished the same thing by renting a Prius and turning one parade lap at each of the events you attended. Congrats on your participation award I suppose.





There is an over/under on how long it takes you to delete this.

Savage.

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Grumpy Cat is my spirit animal.

With a modest amount of effort, you could give yourself some actual competition. Wouldn't that help improve your driving more than turning hpde laps by yourself?

(This is the same argument being used against me continuing to run with NASA vs MaxxisCup, and it's pretty effective.)

Quit being so facetious. If MT is just full of shit talkers and you think everyone is wrong, then leave.

I can still see your Facebook even though you've blocked me. :loser:

It's not a personal thing, it's just criticism. It was meant to be constructive, but clearly it missed the mark, and for that I apologize. If you are learning and growing as a driver at each event, then that's awesome and I encourage you to keep doing that. Maybe classing your car down into TT2 would give you some competition - I know that I always perform better with someone to chase. vs just lapping myself.

Agree with Andrew. A win is a win. Congrats.
I'd also agree that reclassing so that you can push yourself more in car development and as a driver could only yield positive things.

To anyone reading this wondering why it doesn't make sense, Johnny decided to delete his posts...

Congratulations to Justin Hille for winning the 2016 SCCA spec Miata national runoffs.

When reached for a comment about his braking selection he said "I ran PFC 97s" and simply "...I love the pads"


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Official results are here. -> http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1474825401

BMW M325R Series Breaks the Mold as Factory Built Race Car with PFC Brakes
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Many Pirelli World Challenge teams are turning to the PFC Brakes equipped BMW M325R series factory built race cars as their weapon of choice for 2017. With six of these cars committed to the 2017 season already, this speed demon is sure to be in the winner's circle and top competitor in the PWC Series.

Check out the video here of these factory built, PFC equipped speed demons.


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another 24 hour of dytona win.
CLOVER, SC) January 30th, 2017 - This past weekend at the 2017 Rolex 24hr at Daytona, Alegra Motorsports took the GTD Class victory with their inSync sponsored Porsche 911 GT3R-fully equipped with PFC Brakes. PFC also captured the top four finishing positions in the BMW Endurance Challenge before the 24hr, all with Porsche Cayman GT4s fully fitted with PFC Brakes. Celebrating a sentimental victory, Alegra Motorsports' last Daytona 24hr win was 10 years ago. This years 55th running of the Rolex 24 was also the debut race and 1st endurance win with PFC's brand new 331 and 332 CarbonMetallic® new generation endurance race compounds with ZeroDrag™ patented pad retraction calipers, and V3 ZeroFailures™ discs.
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Alegra Motorsports teammates Carlos de Quesada and 17 year old son Michael de Quesada, Jesse Lazare, Danil Morad, and Michael Christensen made the win happen. The drivers cycled throughout the evening and with a brief period falling two laps down, they managed to bring the car back up to the lead lap in the last hour with the improving track conditions following a grueling night of cold and rainy weather.
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Michael Christensen, Porsche Works Driver , took the wheel for the final stint, taking them from third to first place. Holding the position through restarts and several caution periods, the Porsche 911 GT3R crossed the finish line .293 seconds ahead of the second place #29 Audi R8 of Land-Motorsport for the GTD class victory.

"It was just unbelievable for us," said Carlos de Quesada. "We had the right team, the right drivers, the right equipment."




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The winning Porsche 911 GT3 is fully fitted with PFC Brakes ZR77 and ZR78 calipers with ZeroDrag™ patented pad retraction, V3 ZeroFailures™ discs, and all new 331 and 332 CarbonMetallic® endurance race compounds. By virtually eliminating compressibility at elevated temperatures, the newest generation of endurance compound 331 and 332 compounds greatly enhance "threshold feel" and reduce the magnitude of ABS intervention. With excellent disc conditioning, exceptional release, and very low abraded wear, these compounds are made specifically for today's challenging demands in endurance sportscar applications.


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.In the BMW Endurance Challenge at Daytona, a complete sweep by Porche Cayman GT4's claimed the top four finishing spots in the Grand Sport Class of the IMSA Contintental Tire SportsCar Challenge. The four hour long race had a wide variety of fast running Mustangs and McLaren GT4's, but was dominated by Porsche GT4 teams. Finishing first was the No. 12 Bodymotion Porsche, second place No. 33 CJ Wilson Racing Porsche, third place the No. 35 CJ Wilson Porsche, and fourth place the No. 28 RS1 Porsche. Each of these powerhouses were fully equipped with PFC's ZR68 and ZR69 ZeroDrag™ calipers, and V3 ZeroFailures™ discs.

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Smooth Bite for optimum traction, Match the Torque for your tires!!

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Click HERE! PFC 11 compound For 1.8L brakes - Front.
PFC 11 compound. Top choice Of professional GT car drivers. The temperature range at 100*-1600*. Consistent Torq output with less than 5% change over a heat range (7%is noticeable). Recommended tires Bridgestone re71R, BFG Rival-S, Maxxis Rc-1, Toyo RR & R888, Hoosier- All. Recommend use with slotted rotors.

No news because of winter. Hopefully Sebring 12 hour will bring us something.

I was a big fan of the PFC-97 pads when I was racing Spec Miata 6+ years ago. Running a 1.6L car on RA1's. Currently I am setting up an NA8 for summer street use and NASA TTE. Probably running on 205 RC-1's.

With that said, do you have any feedback on how my previous pad preference would translate to the newer pads? I see that the 97 has managed to stick around which is cool....is the 14 not replacing it?

Specifically curious how the PFC-97 pedal feel would compare to a HAWK DTC setup. 60/30 or one or the other setup square. I know you don't sell them but any feedback on PFC-97 Vs. G-Loc R10 or R8...biased or square?

From reading through this thread it sounds like the PFC pads will be fine using rotors run with HAWK pads for street use?

Appreciate any insight you have.

the 14 was slated to replace the 97 but the Demand from Circle track and Spec Miata races have kept the 97 in production. We do not see the 97's going anywhere for a long time.

I would recommend against tuning brake bias with rake.

News From circle track Land. still a little bit off from Sebring 12 hour news.

Congratulations to Kurt Busch . Winning the Daytona 500 with PFC 01 compound.

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also congratulations to Brad Keselowski on his Atlanta win. PFC 01 compound.

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OG racing had an Invite to the Testing of the new Panoz GTS car. Equipped with a full PFC package. Compound undetermined yet. will release that information after first race. Blurred for security.

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Below photo released by Panoz.
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PFC Is the fastest, Proof is on the podium.

-PFC Full carbon carbon brakes on for IndyCar testing. Drivers did back to back blind testing and picked the cars equipped with PFC brakes . As a result, PFC will be spec brakes of choice for the 2017 season.

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Any feedback from the SM crowd as to why many have stuck with the PFC-97 even with the change in tires from Toyo RA1/ 888 to something more aggresive (Hoosier)? Looking at the recommendation breakdown it would seem the PFC-11 should be the most applicaple pad to the current SM ruleset?

Is it strictly pedal feel, or was that pad really having issues on standard blank rotors, etc.?

when the 97's disappeared in 2015 SM guys tried everything. Carbo, project Mu, and even Padgid. Nothing was as fast as the 97's. the racers didn't like the 14, the torq output was too low and fluid boiled when used with slicks. The 11's were too aggressive for the SM mandated non-slotted rotors. the rotors coming from mazda was some of the worst iron ever seen. Racers loved the Torque and consistency of the 11 but a rotor would start to deteriorate. They would deposit iron in the pads, causing loss of performance. a slotted rotor would easily correct this issue but was not allowed under SM rules. The demand for the 97 became too big for PFC to ignore early 2016 and the 97 went back into production.

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Congratulation to Kour for their victory with PFC 11 compound.
Full story here--- Continental Challenge - Ford gets 50th CTCS win at Sebring with Buford, Maxwell

Ford gets 50th CTCS win at Sebring with Buford, Maxwell

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RAcer magazine Covers PFC's Fix for Indy car. 2017 Indycar removed Brembo and replaced all cars with PFC brake systems.

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full story here- Indycar Racing News | Racer.com - St. Petersburg IndyCar rewind

Congrats to Jim Drago and East Street Performance. Jim equipped with PFC 97 compound. Win the race, Captured Pole, and took home the lap record.

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Every time I see the notification for this thread I keep reminding myself to get a set of PFC97 to play with at autocross. On the other hand, where do I get a sweet jacket like that?!

i've been asking the same thing for years lol.

PFC 7754.xx.16. 44 pads for the new Stoptech calipers. available in 01 and 97 compounds.

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01 compound. the high Torque option. The daddy of professional motorsports with hundreds of professional championships.
The 01 compound offers a mild bite, to help your tires keep prevent flat spots.
Consistent Tq output from 200*-1600* to keep your pedal feel the same lap after lap, turn after turn.
Fantastic modulation for easier trail braking and faster lap times.
Recommendations:
Miatas with 200-20 Qutg tires, and little to now downforce.
suggested balance is to run compound Square 01 front and 01 rear.
click here for more information.

97 compound Low torque option. excellent pad for beginners with low to no downforce, and harder tires.
The 97 compound offers a mild bite to help prevent flat spots.
Consistent torq output from 70*-1400* to keep your pedal feel the same lap after lap, turn after turn.
Fantastic modulation for easier trail braking and faster lap times
Recommendations:
Miatas with 200-500Qutg tires, and little to now downforce.
suggested balance is to run compound Square 97 front and 97 rear.
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11.75" rotors for miata brake kits NOW IN STOCK.


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These rotors have been documented to last over 60+ events.
Cut dry to prevent cutting fluids from contaminating your race pads.
100% CNC machined outer edge for perfect balance.
comes with Aerospace hardware.
lateral runout less than .001" Cut on a $2,000,000 lathe.

you will not find a stronger, longer lasting, slotted rotor anywhere.

Click here to order.

Wow, those are beautiful.

$$$$$

Made in America, Iron is sourced from a mine in South Carolina.

how about a product spotlight.

Roadster Shop (very cool guys) built this monster camaro a few years back and it was the hit of Sema. showcasing a PFC brake kit.
source hot rod

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How do they get the wheel spacer centered when they mount a wheel? Or does it not matter?

Do you actually carry 01 or 11 for Wilwood Dynapro? This application mess is the most frustrating thing i've spent 2 hours trying to figure out, ever. Even more frustrating than the first time i tried to please a woman.

constant drumbeat and think of baseball. good work on woman endeavors.


the 7751 will fit into a dynapro. the top of the pad will overhang the top of the rotor by 1-2mm. this leaves a funny looking tapper. this isn't negative to performance but it is annoying. the dynapro is a strange caliper as it only uses the cotter pins as a pad abutment. to me that's crazy to have a pad be supported vertically by only a pin, but you could drill the pad holes vertically 1-2mm to make the 7751 sit flush with the rotor.

DTC60s it is. Thanks for the info. :)

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Panoz GTS sweep using PFC Calipers, rotors and pads. Using the 13 compound.


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Veteran Ian James made it two-for-two for Team Panoz Racing Sunday at Road America when the Arizona driver captured his second straight GTS 50-minute sprint race win in the Pirelli World Challenge Grand Prix presented by VP Racing Fuels.

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Panoz wins again on PFC pads calipers and rotors. full story here -> Pirelli World Challenge - James holds off Staveley in PWC GTS

Let's try that last question again, now that i've messed with a Dynapro caliper or two.

Dynapros do not have cotter pins. Does PFC make the 01 in a pad that fits Dynapro directly? Currently running 7752 PFC01s in my Dynapros, needed to grind the top of the backing plate to clear the middle portion of the e-clip. No other modifications required. I'm cool with this if that's really my only option.

Follow up question: PFC Powerlite fitment? Y/N?

For the dynapro and using the W shaped spring clip retainer, yes you'll need to cut the backing plate. Wilwood does offer two pins to replace the W clip, and that would solve your issue. i bet McMaster car also has some retaining pins that would fit. they will probably be $20 for a pack of 25.

Power light I've been searching. I have found a few formula car that uses pfc pads in a power-light but cannot find the part number. owners usually don't know it. If they are withholding information to gain an advantage is debatable. they might be sending a pad that's similar to a pad cutter and having them shaped to fit.

The dynapro is slightly wider than the dynalite in the area where the clip passes through, just enough so that Wilwood's cotter pin for a DL won't work in the DP. I searched McMaster and similar sources for an off-the-shelf cotter pin with enough length and correct diameter to serve this function and came up dry.

We are having PFC 01/11 custom cut to fit the Dynapro 4 and the Powerlite. I just haven't gotten around to officially putting them on our site. In fact, I have a set of fresh 01's for Powerlite here for my car that I was going to use before I switched over to Stoptech calipers if you need a set soon-ish.

send me the link when you do get it posted. I will gladly share the information.

For Dynapro, Powerlite, or both? "Need" is a strong word, i could probably have my car back up and going with some 01s for rear 1.8 calipers and a new pair of wilwood rotors up front, but i wasn't feeling super great about having to choose between Powerlites OR 01s in the back, long term. So... thanks for the good feels. :)

Thanks. I don't want to thread jack since this is the OG-specific thread, but this was very relevant to the discussion.

You mentioned you had already ground down a set of 7112 shape front pads to fit the DP4 so I assumed you only really need pads for the rear Powerlite for the moment. I have a set of Powerlite 01's on my desk here. At any rate, we'll have plenty of PFC pads for both the Powerlite and DP4 on the shelf here in a week or so.

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200 mph IndyCars possible on road courses in 2018


story here

Indycar Racing News - 200 mph IndyCars possible on road courses in 2018

Woot! Thanks. :)

Kenton Koch Sweeps Both Prototype Challenge Races
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Kenton Koch and the P1 Motorsports team took the No.8 Ligier JS P3 to the track under wet conditions. However, they prevailed and captured the LMP3 Victory without troubles.

The Sunday afternoon race had more favorable weather conditions, with Koch behind the wheel and reducing his lap times as the race kept on. Posting the race's fastest lap at 1 min, 2.430 seconds, he eventually had a nearly 28 second lead over the second place position.

Sweeping the Prototoype events, the Ligier proved to be a beast in both wet and dry conditions, equipped with PFC Brakes.

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Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge Drivers Hargrove, Robichon, and de Quesada Make the Podium

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The Ultra 94 Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge fields all PFC equipped GT3 cars. Drivers Scott Hargrove, Zacharie Robichon, and Rolex 24hr winner Michael de Quesada all hit the podium in two events.

Read more about it here.

That Ligier is just sexy

I was lucky enough to land a seat install in one. they are very nice inside.

For immediate release:
Performance Friction Brakes and OG Racing help capture Multiple podiums Gridlife South - Music & Motorsports Festival event.
Thruxton Booth Winning 1st in Track modified FWD 1:33.5
PFC 01 compound (3-second margin of victory)
Bradley Yonkers Winning 1st in Streed Modified RWD 1:34.4
PFC 08 compound
Matt DeReus 2nd in street modified RWD 1:37.5
PFC 08 compound
Tony Fuentes 2nd Track modified RWD 1:30.1
PFC 08 compound
Eric Fleming 4th Track modified RWD 1:32.2
PFC 11 compound

Track modified RWD Tony Fuentes and Eric Fleming fought hard with a factory backed Kumo Viper ACR. Tony works at @Solo performance and both men would consider themselves privateers were not able to slay the KUMO team. Tony's BMW 135i fell short by only 0.2 seconds. Eric's Corvette Z06 was able to keep up and finished 4th in the 15 car field. Not bad for a near stock car that's used in for track work and date-night duty.
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Bradley Yonkers and Matt DeRus Both piloted almost matching BMW M3's to a 1-2 finish over an 18 car field.



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Thruxton had an incredible win this weekend in his PFC equipped civic. Absolutely destroying the competition with a 3-second margin of victory. an incredible time beating all of the track modified FWD, most of the RWD, and AWD cars.


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Custom Cut PFC 11 for Wilwood Dynapro 4 (7812)
Custom Cut PFC 01 for Wilwood Powerlite 4 (7912)

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PFC 11 compound scores another victory.

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read more here. Pirelli World Challenge - Leifooghe, Murillo, O?Connell score PWC TC wins Saturday at COTA

For immediate release.

PFC Wins another Spec Miata Championship. Preston Pardus' No. 42 Danus Utilities/5X Racing/ESR/PR Mazda Miata Equipped with PFC 97 compound

PFC's Performance was a direct impact on his victory. "Smoke curled up from Pardus' car as he executed a late-braking maneuver to gain the advantage and the lead – a lead he never relinquished as he went on to become the 2017 Spec Miata Runoffs Champ." - Racer magazine.

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Full story here. SCCA - Pardus tops all-Florida podium in Spec Miata at Runoffs