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Still nothing for 1.8 sport brakes?
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Originally Posted by Mazdaspeeder
(Post 1446231)
Still nothing for 1.8 sport brakes?
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But what benefits would I see from running my G-Loc 12/10 brakes for track and street? I know yours are bonded not riveted so longer pad life which is nice. What other benefits are there? I'm sure you can understand why someone might be a little skeptical when you tell them to put smaller brakes on a car with 3x the power of an otherwise stock 1.8
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Recommending a caliper with slightly smaller piston size is not like recommending "smaller" brakes in general. If a size Large helmet is the right fit for your head, then a size XL is larger but that doesn't make it better. The importance of the caliper piston size is in how it relates to the other pistons in the system (front calipers and master cylinder), in the same way that the importance of the helmet size is in how it fits on your head. Bigger / smaller is not better / worse respectively. A smaller piston size in the rear caliper may improve your brake balance. It also may not, but that depends on the other elements in your brake system. This has been covered pretty exhaustively elsewhere.
Originally Posted by Mazdaspeeder
(Post 1446239)
I'm sure you can understand why someone might be a little skeptical when you tell them to put smaller brakes on a car with 3x the power of an otherwise stock 1.8
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Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1446276)
Recommending a caliper with slightly smaller piston size is not like recommending "smaller" brakes in general. If a size Large helmet is the right fit for your head, then a size XL is larger but that doesn't make it better. The importance of the caliper piston size is in how it relates to the other pistons in the system (front calipers and master cylinder), in the same way that the importance of the helmet size is in how it fits on your head. Bigger / smaller is not better / worse respectively. A smaller piston size in the rear caliper may improve your brake balance. It also may not, but that depends on the other elements in your brake system. This has been covered pretty exhaustively elsewhere.
The thing begging skepticism is why such a car is still using factory size brakes in the first place. |
When it comes to stopping a vehicle. we have many components working together, finding a balance is the key to stopping performance. It's commonplace to compare brakes to power. Many think to have less power is a downgrade and I would agree it is, but try not to think like that around brakes. When it comes to vehicle declaration performance do remove the term 'Downgrade' from your vocabulary, and Replace it with 'Balance'.
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Brian Putt is NASA SE Super unlimited East coast champion. Crew Cheif Jim Lock uses PFC 13 compound and was able to race Larger more powerful prototypes.
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Excuse my lack of reading comprehension, but is there a PFC compound that you guys sell/recommend for enduro use? Quasi-PTE car with Hankook RS4s, no aero, plain 1.8 calipers front and rear? Needs to last 15 hours minimum.
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Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
(Post 1451771)
Excuse my lack of reading comprehension, but is there a PFC compound that you guys sell/recommend for enduro use? Quasi-PTE car with Hankook RS4s, no aero, plain 1.8 calipers front and rear? Needs to last 15 hours minimum.
Highly recommended you run slotted rotors for maximum life. |
why is it cold out... winter is boring.
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Originally Posted by OGRacing
(Post 1456265)
why is it cold out... winter is boring.
It was cold out at Barber this last weekend...but it definitely was not boring! |
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
(Post 1456270)
It was cold out at Barber this last weekend...but it definitely was not boring!
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There's a track day at Homestead Miami this Sunday. The weather supposed to be 62 in the morning with a high of 80 and sunny. Wintertime is track season down here. Y'all come.
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Winter track time is a double edge sword. It's great to run to Florida, but I end up spending my Christmas budget on track time. :P it's not-so fun avoiding the family for 12 months.
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Do you have PFC compounds for Wilwood Powerlite calipers? I have 4 of them on my ND. I am currently running Ferodo DS2500's and they used to be quiet, then I did two days at Laguna Seca, and now they are super loud and squeal. Each wheel has a different pitch and it is driving me crazy. The car is my fun car, I have to drive 5+ hours to even get to a track, and I don't tow the ND, so I need a one pad solution. Got suggestions?
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Hello Chilicharger,
I'm sorry we don't have pads for powerlight calipers. Franky a little shocked your car has 4 of those calipers. We do have Padgid offerings for the OEM Brembo package. and FYI race pads will be noisy, they have no provisions for noise deadening. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1456288)
There's a track day at Homestead Miami this Sunday. The weather supposed to be 62 in the morning with a high of 80 and sunny. Wintertime is track season down here. Y'all come.
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Brace yourselves. New compounds are coming for 2018!!
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NEW compounds coming out soon for 1.8L endurance and track day drivers, this will be aimed at you!
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ND miata Pads Incoming from PFC! Available compounds. PFC 11. The daddy and the #1 choice of professional race teams. Well over 200 professional level championships won (nascar,Imsa, PWC ect..) . Soft bite to avoid flat spotting and helps keep the vehicle stable under initial braking, Dead straight consistent Tq output, less than 4% change over 1200*. Professional drivers love this. Easy modulation helps you nail that trail braking moment. Recommended for tires that range in QUTG from 200-50. PFC13 The high torq option! The new compound offering from PFC for those with mega sticky tires, and big downforce! Soft bite to avoid flat spotting and helps keep the vehicle stable under initial braking, High Torque for slowing the biggest of race tires. or for easing pedal effort with manual brakes. Easy modulation helps you nail that trail braking moment. Recommended for tires that range in QUTG from 90 and less, OR for manual brakes with qutg180 or less. |
Originally Posted by OGRacing
(Post 1466660)
NEW compounds coming out soon for 1.8L endurance and track day drivers, this will be aimed at you!
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Originally Posted by RacerJRP
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Joey from WRL mentioned he was in talks with with a few companies to replace HAWK for contingency....Hoping one of them is PFC! Sound like there are A LOT of racers from multiple organizations that have not received any pay out from HAWK for 2017 results. I was actually thinking of trying some DTC 60's for the SM this season since HAWK owes me a few hundred "bucks", but looks like I'll be staying with my trusty PFC 97's!
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The 1.8L Endurance compounds are here!!
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ffe4e8b457.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dce87476aa.jpg PFC 08 compound. Used extensively as an endurance compound in Grand Am, ALMS, and IMSA now available only from OG racing for the Miata platform. These 08's share the soft bite, consistent torq output and easy modulation loved in the 11 but with more life! Recommended tires. Anything in the 245 wide categories, QUTG must be 200 or lower. Rival s, Bridgestone re71-r, MAxxis VR-1, Rc-1, Hoosier, Pirelli P Zero. Get yours today! |
Will there ever be a 7754 pad shape option that is on the 11-12mm side of thickness instead of 16mm?
I just bought the set of 7752 to modify for dynopro (after having incorrectly purchased the 7754 years ago) and it was quite the experience to grind to clear a bridge bolt let alone the e-clip. Not that big a deal, but it makes me want to buy a used Bridgeport :giggle: |
that little spring is a pain. I'm still on the hunt for a 2 spring option that doesn't cross over the top.
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Originally Posted by OGRacing
(Post 1473902)
PFC 08 compound. Used extensively as an endurance compound in Grand Am, ALMS, and IMSA now available only from OG racing for the Miata platform. These 08's share the soft bite, consistent torq output and easy modulation loved in the 11 but with more life!
Recommended tires. Anything in the 245 wide categories, QUTG must be 200 or lower. Rival s, Bridgestone re71-r, MAxxis VR-1, Rc-1, Hoosier, Pirelli P Zero. Get yours today! Ordered a set of the new 08 enduro compound and will be running them this weekend in the 14-Hour ChampCar race at Charlotte Speedway. Basically a '99 PTE car on 225 RS4s...~2350 lbs, 125ish whp. Standard 1.8 brakes with some ducting. Will report back on how they do and how we like them. |
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Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
(Post 1477538)
Ordered a set of the new 08 enduro compound and will be running them this weekend in the 14-Hour ChampCar race at Charlotte Speedway. Basically a '99 PTE car on 225 RS4s...~2350 lbs, 125ish whp. Standard 1.8 brakes with some ducting. Will report back on how they do and how we like them. good luck guys! |
Originally Posted by OGRacing
(Post 1477660)
might want to tape up the ducting for Charlotte. those long straights (lots of cooling), with a dragging brake zone (high heat) are rotor killers (thermal shock).
good luck guys! They've added a bus stop on the back straight thereby adding a pretty decent braking zone and breaking up the extremely long full throttle "straight". Would you still recommend taping up the ducts with the added bus stop? Also, we run $22 rotors. My only concern for the rotors is that they last 14 hours. If I'm not worried about adding thermal shock stress cycles to the rotors because they'll be tossed after the race, are we better off having brake cooling to improve pad life? What's the minimum working temperature for the 08 compound? I guess I'd be more worried about not getting enough heat in the brakes since we're fairly low on HP and we're running only 225 RS4s. We've had no issue getting GLoc R12s up to temp and working well with the same setup at other tracks. Thanks for your input. |
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
(Post 1477703)
@OGRacing They've added a bus stop on the back straight thereby adding a pretty decent braking zone and breaking up the extremely long full throttle "straight". Would you still recommend taping up the ducts with the added bus stop? Also, we run $22 rotors. My only concern for the rotors is that they last 14 hours. If I'm not worried about adding thermal shock stress cycles to the rotors because they'll be tossed after the race, are we better off having brake cooling to improve pad life? What's the minimum working temperature for the 08 compound? I guess I'd be more worried about not getting enough heat in the brakes since we're fairly low on HP and we're running only 225 RS4s. We've had no issue getting GLoc R12s up to temp and working well with the same setup at other tracks. Thanks for your input. Min temp is around 200*f I'm not worried about the pads working. I'm worried about the $22 rotor starting to break up from repeated cold-hot-cold-hot-cold-hot-cold-hot-cold-hot-cold-hot-cold-hot-cold-hot for 14 hours. the $22 rotors have a tendency to flake off the surface material when thermally shocked too much. |
I’ve read this thread twice, still can’t decide. 180hp turbo NA. Mostly track car, driven to/from track. Occasionally use to run around or go to the mountains. HPDE intermediate driver, usually +3-5 seconds vs. SM lap times. 200tw tires on 15x8, currently 205 RE-71R. TSE 11.75 Dynalite BBK in front, 1.8 caliper with relocation bracket and Sport rotors in back. Wildwood prop valve. So- 01/11 compound or 97 compound? EDIT- didn’t get an answer here and needed to order. It looks like my tires are right on the line between the two compounds; decided to go with the 14/97 compound. I‘m not racing and I don’t have ABS, it looks like the 97’s will be a little easier to modulate. We’ll see how Iike them. FOLLOW UP, IN CASE ANYONE CARES: Did a track day with the 97's yesterday, they were really great with this setup. A+ |
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