Begi Alpha Omega Bow to Me Peasant
 

I've seen two mentions of this thing recently.

Is it awesome? Will it be plagued by none of the things that plague Begi kits? Cure IBS? Massage my prostate? Make more power than anything before it?


Oh damn. Sure is cloak 'n' dagger. Maybe they're prepping to compete with the TSE kit?

Do you have a link to where that is from? I have absolutely no clue what they are talking about ECU wise, but I do know that BEGI is working on a new manifold to replace their old cast one. The few prototypes that I saw looked very nice. The details that I think I can give out are top mount manifold, AC/PS compatible, external wastegate, Garrett turbo.

It's from CR. ECU doesn't have anything to do with it, i just didn't copy paste as selectively as i should have. He's using a Megasquirt i think. ITBs with some sort of plenum.

My Jenvey ITB experience so far - ClubRoadster.net

Regardless of the turbo kit quality, you are still dealing with BEGi. I lol'd at the 8 weeks, if that is what he was told, I'm thinking the TSE kit will be out before then.

So with reading the actual post I am not sure if the kit he is talking about is what I saw when I was out at BEGI or not. He says it is an S4 like setup, the new ones I saw were nothing like the S4.

If it is what I saw then I could easily see him having a stainless steal prototype easily within 8 weeks. I am doubtful that they will have the cast version of it done in 8 weeks.

How long until they get sued?

AMS Performance - AMS Alpha Omega GTR

I thought Alpha Omega was patented around 96 A.D. ;)

Some moron just got a copyright on Pi, so anything is possible.

I'm going to apply for a copyright on the male phallus, so every male on earth will owe me money. :dealwithit:

I want the gallo24 package plz

I thought that was the Gallo12. :dunno:

I didnt know Pizza joints made penis's.

How long before you learn about how trademarks works?

They could name it the Big Mac ECU and McDonalds could not sue them under their trademark.

In fact, many companies own a trademark for "Big Mac" from a hard hat company to J.C. Penney.

Fun Facts:
™ actually means that you intend to trademark a word/logo, but are too lazy to actually pay and do it.
℠ is a service mark. If BEGi had a tuning servicing called ECU Wizardy, they could use the ℠ mark on it so FM couldn't also offer a service called "ECU Wizardy".
® is a registered trademark.
© is a copyright. You don't copyright logos, business names, slogans. You copyright orginal work.
℗ is a copyright for sound recordings.

Did read this post about my post on cr. Throughout I should respond as Well.

It's a stainless steel exhaust manifold which I ordered.

Can't wait to see the kit....

Did Corky say if it was a top mount manifold or a bottom mount manifold.

Just checked the picture I received: it's top mounted.

we already have pics of these kits guys, posted in that thread where corky is quoted as saying the s4 is no more

nothing special, just a top mount weld el short runner manifold

What's the rest of the changes, though? I can't believe that even Stephanie would claim a 10% power increase just by going to that manifold.



Lol oh wait. Maybe i can.

I would have to ask Corky

I'll dig up the old thread when I have a moment.

Its nothing new. At all. Same cookie cutter manifold most here run. In fact, its almost identical to the weld el mani I built back in 2008.

Cool story bro.

boom

https://www.miataturbo.net/prefabbed...2/#post1089607

you're welcome ;)

All the extra power is from the "velocity stack" on the maf, errybuddy know dat.

Link to the thread with the pictures?

I can make no claims to what improvements power wise the new system will make. I did get the picture from ahouterm and can confirm that it is what i saw at the shop in April. When I was there they had no gotten any of the cars that had the new manifold on a dyno yet. The one he is getting will be stainless, but I know Corky wants to go to a cast manifold with the same design. We talked about the problems he was having with designing how it would be cast and all.

The biggest changes were the new manifold and going to an external wastegate. I am doubtful of 10% power increase over their old S4, but might buy it over their normal cast manifold. The one thing I liked about the design was how easy it was to actually install the turbo on the manifold.

Thanks for the email wiht the picture. I was actually helping Corky work on a heat shield in the exact car that they sent you a picture of.

you need to press F5 more Lars :giggle:

It actually took me about 20 minutes or something to type up the post. I was distracted by coworkers, getting real work done, and eating lunch.

Well then, you need to get your damned priorities straight.

At this moment I'm really curious how my car will react with the current ITB setup and turbo. Couldn't find much on the web about ITB+turbo on a miata.

The sad thing is how long they have used a customer's car to build this. Dropped off in November and still doesn't have it... http://houstonmiataclub.com/index.php?topic=3415.0

That looks very similar to my ETD shorty

also pics https://www.flickr.com/photos/52228612@N06/14047675510/

Yep, exactly. Which I copied too in my 1st build.

I guess I had a ALPHA-OMEGA kit on my '00 and didn't even know it :party:

Too bad I didn't have any GTR's or Lambo's to smoke.

BEGi revolutionized turbo Miatas by making a manifold that has been around for a decade.

I guess thats where the name comes from. Getting biblical up in this bitch. Ancient manifold rises from the dead to heal our sins.

That is about par for the course there. Heck, There was certain NC that lived there for over a year(iirc) for development of a kit. Owner got tired of waiting and said give it back.

At least this is better than being told I HAVE to use the 1.6L downpipe because my car is a 90. Nevermind that 95 1.8L motor I put in. That doesn't matter, your car should use the 1.6 parts because that is what it is. :hustler:

Or just asking how the intercooler pipes were routed and told they can't tell me that. I'd just have to order the parts and see. :hahano:

:bowrofl:

This is the truth.

While they certainly have earned a bit of a reputation for tardiness, it warrants remembering that Bell was really the first company to produce a high-quality, well-engineered turbo system for the Miata, and is easily the longest-lasting name in the business. Until about 5 years ago, even the Flyin' Miata turbo system was a re-branded Bell package (FM was the authorized exclusive distributor for Bell at the time.)

Well they were partially right about the downpipe. The 1.8 and 1.6 CATs are different and have different angled flanges. So if you were still using the 1.6 CAT you would need a 1.6 downpipe even if you have a 1.8 motor in the car. The section behind the CAT is the same 90-97 though.

They were more than partially right. You still want the 90-93 DP in order to mate your cat.

The physical location of the turbo stays in the same place, regardless of a 1.6L or 1.8L. If you had a 94+ cat, then that would have been a different story. But I doubt that's the case and I would lol if I had known all this, knew you in real life, and found out your DP didn't fit after you "schooled" them.


Sidenote: FM makes a 1.6L to 1.8L DP. Just a different flange on the end to mate the cat.

Who the fuck puts a turbo on their car then leaves the stock 1.6 cat there?



Regardless, the shit with the intercooler piping question is hilarious. That's when you follow up with "Thanks for the lack of information, I'll be giving a different vendor my money."

Something tells me that if Corkey Canned Steph and hired someone else a lot of these issues would go away.

I'd take the job. I don't particularly enjoy Corky, but i could turn that shit around.

However much the sponsor fees are, just like all the other official vendors.

I have a 3" 1.6L cat from enthuzacar. It still has a 1.6L flanges.


Who wants to be banned today before I go home for the day?

I can't speak for the rest of the staff, but my personal cut is $250 a month, plus all the dead armadillos I can eat anytime I'm in central TX.

In the case of my 1.6 car, the 1.6L flanges don't support a 4" pipe.

You jest, but I hear its a real serious problem over there: they can't find good workers worth a crap.

But all the Mexicans took their jerbs so there should be plenty of good workers out of work. :dealwithit:

I hear BEGi is helping develop the TSE turbokit.

Maybe they should think about what's causing that situation.


I'm totally not jesting. I'd take the job if the pay made sense, and i was in a position to actually turn things around. You think i want to be a cube farmer for corporate overlords the rest of my life? :rofl:

Steph is family so she is not going away.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1402598783

This is actually the biggest issue. Finding competent welders, who are also into miata's. Texas has a pretty good economy for welders so there is a lot of competition for work.

There are 2 reasons I am not currently employed by BEGI, or any of the other miata specific shops.

1. I just bought a house so I am stuck in Charleston for the next 7-10 years until I could sell it and not loose a ton of money.
2. I can't live off their salary alone and still be able to cover student loans, and owning the toys I want.

:laugh:

Nope. Had a new 1.8 cat as well. Factory one was 100k and 13yrs old. Didnt want to take a risk of that old one clogging or rattling after just putting everything together.

And yes I told BEGi I replaced the cat. I'm pretty sure this is the effect. "I know the car, I just got done replacing just about everything. Sell me what I'm asking for. I'm not going to send it back because it wont fit. This car is a 90 but everything is basically a 95 now. I need the 1.8L DP." The reply? "No you have a 90 you need the 1.6 stuff". Ok thanks, I'll find some other solution.

all they do is drive around, listening to raps and shooting all the jobs

FTFY

My car, it's a 2001 with +/- 55k miles on it.

Numbers are correct, about 195 hp on ~ 6psi.

Will ultimately be boosting about 8-9 when it's finished.

Ecu reflash, mishimoto radiator, enthuza exhaust, ACT clutch.

Been a LONG time since I drove my Miata. Dropped off on black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving. Sold my 91 Nissan back in January to partially fund this Miata project. Really, really miss driving a manual shift car.

Been stuck with my 10 yr old Honda Pilot for the last 6 1/2 months :facepalm:

I still don't see what's so special yet.

so they built a custom manifold...

What turbo, what dyno, what fuel?

I know it's a Chinese journal bearing turbo, not sure of the size...

LONE STAR DYNO, dynojet 224xLC chassis dyno,

fuel is probably the same old 93 octane HEB fuel that's been in it since November 29th?

What is so special? Really, absolutely nothing. Just tried to do a better job on every part than has been done before. Can 1% each be squeezed from a dozen places? To examine our old stuff and the FM piece, one would be tempted to ask; why not try for 3%? The A/O also comes with a new attitude for simplicity and easy install. Perhaps not my best attributes in the past. I've always loved the contradiction of "simplicity."
Clearly then, the more parts left out, the better the system.

Anyhow, anyway, whatever, here's the stuff that results form the 1% effort......

New manifold, 4 into 1, turbo up, wg, down. equal access to the exhaust gas, weld els, mild or SS, casting in the works. Special awards here for not requiring the frame structure to be cut away.

Remote gate. Creep is finally on the ropes. better response, etcc....

Improved dnpipe, slightly better flow,

Longer wg vent tube. Open to atmo if you choose. The atmo vent is equivalent to about 20% more tailpipe, but w/o muffs.

Any turbo (not quite so) one might want. The protos are all wimp-ass journal bearing Shanghis.

Straight comp inlet with an air horn shape.

SLightly improved IC.

The air tubes are aluminum and hang out in the breeze. All tubes can be adjusted in length and angle for more likely fit.

Unbreakable oil/water system.

Improved heat shielding.

So far with 3 dyno runs we are running about 14% ahead of everything we've done before.

Why the name? It is somewhat the start/finish deal. Plus, I'm getting older fast and not getting my turbo motorcycle finished as quick as I'd like. Living right here in the Texas hill country, enjoying the thousands of miles of great roads has become a matter of how badly one behaves with regard to the posted social limitations. Hence the bike.

corky

Nice! Good work, will be cool to see that thing cast.