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Slidin'Miata916 10-18-2007 03:01 AM

Car is NOT starting, and I just got it done!
 
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Well, I got my turbo put on the new car.
new set up (as of right now)
I put on the green tops
and a new ic and ic piping kit that had to be custom welded on one side.
Stock fuel pump
Fmu with a 6:1 disc
Greddy bov (that leaks a little at idle, not sure if its suppose to do that, its the purple bov)
and uhm..i think thats it.
Just earlier i had to change out leaky injector o rings, so i know its getting fuel
Idunno whats wrong... I checked all connections and piping.
any suggestions?
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mike_671 10-18-2007 04:23 AM

are your spark plugs good?

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-18-2007 04:58 AM

check your AFM??? if you are still running one...Do you Drift??

Slidin'Miata916 10-18-2007 05:04 AM

Piping fell off...
Im gonna put that one and see if it does this whole
Die, not start for like an hour, then turn on and drive perfectlyu fine again thing.
Haha.
And I used to in my old car, dont have the balls to do it in this one yet :/
But ill slide it around a little bit down at this spot in west sac.

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-18-2007 05:09 AM

What EMS are you running for that greddy kit?
so you have a spot in sac that you can go sliding? i come there pretty often but feels like cops are everywhere... i have a friend here with a FM turbo miata...we go sliding pretty often here in marysville, but now my car is under construction..

Slidin'Miata916 10-18-2007 05:48 AM

Your gonna have to show me those spots :D
And my set up is in my sig :)

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-18-2007 05:53 AM

i'll hit you up when my car runs right...i might need a new diff...since this 1.6 diff is gonna blow..

Slidin'Miata916 10-18-2007 05:55 AM

I knwo someone with a 1.6 viscous diff if your interested.

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-18-2007 05:59 AM

i need to upgrade to a 1.8 because of the turbo. gotta have torsen or 2nd gen rx-7 but not sure how to install it...gotta research...

Braineack 10-18-2007 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Slidin'Miata916 (Post 164239)
I knwo someone with a 1.6 viscous diff if your interested.


that ain't going to help.

drftem 10-18-2007 03:08 PM

if you drift just get a 1.8 open dif and have it welded.

jwarriner 10-18-2007 04:59 PM

I knew you'd ruin another one.

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-18-2007 05:10 PM

welding it diff is just stupid...

jwarriner 10-18-2007 05:27 PM

Tell that to the people who've been doing it (or using spools) for fifty years. If all you want to do is get sideways and have shitty handling (drifting, which IS stupid by the way...) then a welded diff will not only work great, it'll be indestructible.

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-18-2007 06:02 PM

okay, if that's your point of seeing it i guess....welded diff will only kill me in the rain...thats why i don't want to do that...i addition i don't just drift i do auto cross..... in my point weld isnt they best way to go...

jwarriner 10-18-2007 06:04 PM

If you want to do anything other than drag racing and Dukes of Hazard moves then the welded diff simply is not a good idea. A fully locked diff will make you look like a hero to the ladies though.

Slidin'Miata916 10-18-2007 08:17 PM

Well...
I think i fried my rings....

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-18-2007 09:25 PM

what? you slamed on the gas after putting a turbo in or what?

Slidin'Miata916 10-18-2007 11:18 PM

IDunno man.
I wasnt even driving it hard
and next thing i knew, smoke comming out my exhaust, like white.
and oil everywehre
and oil pouring when i puled in my driveway

jwarriner 10-18-2007 11:24 PM

I think you should get another Miata and try again. Third time's a charm.

cjernigan 10-18-2007 11:28 PM

Oops. Bum deal.
Where is the oil coming from.

Savington 10-18-2007 11:31 PM

How much boost were you running? I didn't see a timing controller in that list of mods you posted.

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 04:07 AM

the boost gauge wasnt reading boost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well, at the time at least.
but before that, like 5psi 6 degree retard.
Wow Jwarriner, shut up.

cjernigan 10-19-2007 09:17 AM

Wonder if you were pressurizing the hell out of your crankcase and the rings weren't sealing.

Silverhare 10-19-2007 11:51 AM

Is this the 2nd motor you have blown?...Do you do any tuning/testing before you go out and red line it with tires smoking?

....This forum is a wealth of knowledge, you should take advantage of it

jwarriner 10-19-2007 12:20 PM

He tried to turbo one Miata, couldn't get it work, fucked up the car (and made a million STUPID posts about it) and then bought a second one about two weeks ago, put a turbo on it and blew the motor. I think it's time for a new hobby.

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by jwarriner (Post 164788)
He tried to turbo one Miata, couldn't get it work, fucked up the car (and made a million STUPID posts about it) and then bought a second one about two weeks ago, put a turbo on it and blew the motor. I think it's time for a new hobby.

Yep.
Thats actually exactly what happend.
And im glad you read my posts :D
I am now on th elook out for a new motor and gonna be most likely selling my whole set up.

Eunos_roadsterna6ce 10-19-2007 03:03 PM

at first all i did was slapped on a turbo kit without any EMS and dorve it for like 3 months and kick some hondas asses and its still okay..i don't know how you can blow a motor so easyly...you must be killing it...

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 03:50 PM

Idunno.
And dont really care.
IM looking for a motor though if you know of any....
I mean... I had my turbo on the other car too....
blew the motor
put a new one in
then it was coo after i got that fuel pump.
this one, i have no idea, it wasnt right from the moment i started it up..
But oh well, SHIT HAPPENS>

jwarriner 10-19-2007 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Slidin'Miata916 (Post 164868)
Idunno.
And dont really care.

You're a fucking idiot. Maybe if you stopped to figure out what went wrong you wouldn't continually repeat your mistakes.

Ben 10-19-2007 04:30 PM

Yeah, shit happens, but how the fuck do you blow 3 motors in a row like that?

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 04:33 PM

Lol.
Hahaha.
Doesnt really matter anymore since im going NA.
Take your Derogatory Terms to the bedroom with your wife.

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 164881)
Yeah, shit happens, but how the fuck do you blow 3 motors in a row like that?

2 :bigtu:

Ben 10-19-2007 04:34 PM

Sweet, since you'll be NA, you'll have no reason to post here anymore. Fuckin wonderful news.

jwarriner 10-19-2007 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Slidin'Miata916 (Post 164884)
Doesnt really matter anymore since im going NA.

We'll miss you on the TURBO forums.

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 05:01 PM

Lol.
Fa sho.
Ill get a 240, and bother the Nico Forums HAHAHA
Like...
Asking quetions is normal.
Asking dumb questions are normal too.
Im sure you guys were there once before....

cjernigan 10-19-2007 05:03 PM

You're the only one I know that has blown two motors though.

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 05:04 PM

Lol.
Good point.
Hahaha.
Maaan.
Im tempted to stay FI.
But..
Idunno.
We will see i guess.
Money is REALLY tite right now too.

cjernigan 10-19-2007 05:20 PM

Go N/A, save yourself the trouble. Or pay someone else to do it for you.

Slidin'Miata916 10-19-2007 05:47 PM

Fa Sho.
Gives me an excuse to drop in my High compression motor i have in my garage.
Hm....

Silverhare 10-19-2007 06:58 PM

If you are not willing to see how your spark plugs are burning, check/adj. your timing, pay attention to your air/fuel mixture, validate your fuel pressure and tune boost accordingly you should not be running a turbo.....before you put in your third motor I suggest you take an automotive repair class or buy yourself a few books... good luck son

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by Silverhare (Post 164952)
If you are not willing to see how your spark plugs are burning, check/adj. your timing, pay attention to your air/fuel mixture, validate your fuel pressure and tune boost accordingly you should not be running a turbo.....before you put in your third motor I suggest you take an automotive repair class or buy yourself a few books... good luck son

hahahahaha
Aite B.
im rebuilding a motor i got

Silverhare 10-20-2007 04:40 AM

Do you know how to rebuild a motor?

Savington 10-20-2007 04:50 AM

I vote ban.

Milton Tucker 10-20-2007 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 165043)
I vote ban.

But he is entertaining. :gay:

magnamx-5 10-20-2007 10:19 AM

BS comeon guys Scot has poped 2 motors by now :gay: but not in the same year geez. Yes slidin we where all new once but damn boy 95% or more of us read the faqs and spent a few hours reading everythread on the forum we thought looked interesting. This is simple but not fool proof or totally easy. You might be able to swing a wrench but i am thinking abit of patience and general attention to detail would go along way towards you not blowing your budget on motor builds every other month ya know ;)

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 02:30 PM

Lol.
I have a short block and extra head in the garage with bad rings, i took it in and they said it could be honed.
so im looking for used pistins and new rings and just gonna put it all together and call it good.

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 03:56 PM

Alright well...
I went and pulled my plugs and they were all corroded and rusty looking, and the tips were Black.
What would cause that? Ping? Detonation?
And i figured out where all the oil is comming from, its just gushing out from my fitting. Im not sure if my crank case was pressurized or not, but i think it was becuase there was oil by where the plug wires are, and the oil cap was loose, so i figured it was becuaes of bad rings.
Im gonna have to find a compression tester today to make sure.
I replaced the plugs with old ones i had, and it would rev up to like 4k before it wouild just stay there. Detonation? I dunno.

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 04:14 PM

I replaced all of them but one with old plugs. and its shooting white smoke when i hit the throttle and hesitates at around 4k.
I NEED to compression test that shittttttt

cjernigan 10-20-2007 04:30 PM

Spend the money and get one more $1.50 plug for fucks sake.

Make sure your PCV valve is working if it's allowing boost into your crankcase you're going to continue having problems.

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 04:45 PM

You mean where i can blow through one side but not the other right?

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 04:47 PM

Pvc is coo.
and iw ould go get a plug but i cant right now, no ride..
i wa gonna get one when my sister came from work

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 05:02 PM

I put in a plug that i had in the bad one.
and i let it idle, reved a little, and i pulled the plugs, and their all black...shit

cjernigan 10-20-2007 05:08 PM

Ur fucked.

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 05:15 PM

I knoe.
Haha.
Well, looks like im gonna start tearing this shit apart soon.
I just dont get how this happend.
I wasnt boosting high
timing was on like 4-5 degrees retard
i have the hp fuel pump
supra pnp injectors
Fuck.
I wish i knew what caused this so i can look out for it next time.

Savington 10-20-2007 10:52 PM

If I didn't want to see you get banned so badly, I would tell you to buy a fucking wideband, or mabye a Megasquirt to actually do it right this time. My shit just did its 7th and 8th track days and it's run 4000 miles in the last 3 months. Megasquirt, big injectors, wideband, professionally tuned.

Slidin'Miata916 10-20-2007 10:56 PM

Why should I get banned...
For asking questions?
For blowing motors out of stupidity?

zoom2zoom 10-21-2007 04:07 AM

dude, you really are stupid. put down the pipe and step away from the table!

Slidin'Miata916 10-21-2007 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by zoom2zoom (Post 165333)
dude, you really are stupid. put down the pipe and step away from the table!

Ok..... You'r Cool.
How am I stupid.

Savington 10-21-2007 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Slidin'Miata916 (Post 165146)
I NEED to compression test that shittttttt

Get bent, you fucking fanboi.


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