Carb kegal Turbo kit
03-24-2018, 10:34 AM
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Carb kegal Turbo kit
Hello, I have a 1995 1.8l miata and was looking into getting FI. I saw the BTP turbo kit, but keep reading horror stories on fitment and sketchy carb kegal issues. My power goal is 200WHP, while staying carb legal. I also saw the FFS kit and this seems like the best route. Has the BTP fixed their issues or should I just go FFS and call it a day?
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03-24-2018, 01:51 PM
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Hello, I have a 1995 1.8l miata and was looking into getting FI. I saw the BTP turbo kit, but keep reading horror stories on fitment and sketchy carb kegal issues. My power goal is 200WHP, while staying carb legal. I also saw the FFS kit and this seems like the best route. Has the BTP fixed their issues or should I just go FFS and call it a day?
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03-24-2018, 03:07 PM
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FFS is a legitimimate company that will ship you a fully legal kit that passes smog in California.
After tuning a BTP equipped "smog legal" kit in California on a 1.6 car, I cringed at the thought of what would happen if a smog station (especially a STAR one, likely due to the age of the car) was to inspect the car.
The owner quickly sold the Miata and bought a Skyline R32 after fighting with the issues he was having about four months later.
Be smart. Go FFS.
PS. If you are familiar at all with that CARB legal means in California, the first red flag here (after BTP) is the fact that the kit was being tuned. You cannot just send someone a Megasquirt and say "that's OK, that falls under THIS item number from the original EO".
Who ended up getting the short end of the stick?
Right. The customer who couldn't pass smog with his "CARB legal" kit.
After tuning a BTP equipped "smog legal" kit in California on a 1.6 car, I cringed at the thought of what would happen if a smog station (especially a STAR one, likely due to the age of the car) was to inspect the car.
The owner quickly sold the Miata and bought a Skyline R32 after fighting with the issues he was having about four months later.
Be smart. Go FFS.
PS. If you are familiar at all with that CARB legal means in California, the first red flag here (after BTP) is the fact that the kit was being tuned. You cannot just send someone a Megasquirt and say "that's OK, that falls under THIS item number from the original EO".
Who ended up getting the short end of the stick?
Right. The customer who couldn't pass smog with his "CARB legal" kit.
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03-26-2018, 12:26 AM
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I'm on the same boat as you. I have a 1995 Miata and wanted a CARB legal turbo kit but there really isn't any out there. Supercharging was the only CARB legal solution otherwise you would have to pass smog illegally or go back to stock every two years before undergoing a smog check.
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03-29-2018, 12:47 PM
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It's the 99 kits that are questionable due to deleting the pre-cat (because no special 99 manifold any more) and games with the "timing retard device".
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03-29-2018, 01:06 PM
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The Bell NA kits are actually legitimately CARB legal if you use them with a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. Not that you want to do that, but it does conform to the EO.
It's the 99 kits that are questionable due to deleting the pre-cat (because no special 99 manifold any more) and games with the "timing retard device".
--Ian
It's the 99 kits that are questionable due to deleting the pre-cat (because no special 99 manifold any more) and games with the "timing retard device".
--Ian
https://www.belltuning.com/na-nb-mia...o-systems.html
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03-29-2018, 01:20 PM
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I agree that Bell is playing it a bit fast and loose with their EOs, but it *is* possible to configure a legal system for certain years.
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03-29-2018, 02:42 PM
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Honestly that is an interesting question as to who the CARB EO follows. It was originally setup by Begi which no longer exists. There is Bell Tuning and MaxG. Both separate companies, both from Begi. No clue which one actually has the rights to the CARB EO and making a setup that passes.
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03-29-2018, 04:33 PM
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Honestly that is an interesting question as to who the CARB EO follows. It was originally setup by Begi which no longer exists. There is Bell Tuning and MaxG. Both separate companies, both from Begi. No clue which one actually has the rights to the CARB EO and making a setup that passes.
--Ian
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