Full_Tilt_Boogie

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Peicing together is not nearly as easy as a honda.

If you want to peice it together you better be ready to do some fabrication.

When it comes to the IC, dont buy a kit. The only good kits are hella expensive, and are designed to work with specific turbo manifolds.
Just buy the bends and couplers you need and DIY it. Its the only part of turboing a miata that is as easy as turboing a civic (in fact, the way you run the IC pipes is very similar)

Also, 2"-2.5" charge pipes is MORE than enough for just about any turbo miata Ive ever seen. Some of the guys who are making 500+hp might be using 3" charge pipes. But 4" is ******* ridiculous.

Si Speed 317

The newer civics aren't nearly as easy as the older ones, I can tell you that for sure. The engine bay is more cramped than you can imagine. I'll definitely run my own IC piping, that should be fun. I'm trying to research as much as possible so once I have my miata I can go ahead and mod away!

Full_Tilt_Boogie

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Oh, I didnt realize you were talking 8th gen civics.
Ive never played with them, but they dont look fun to moddify.

If you do some searching on here you can find pics of IC setups, the pipe routing isnt hard at all on NAs, but its a bit tricky on the NBs

marcmannugget

if you ever boost your civic,
1) have fun with the exhaust manifold that goes behind the engine block in front of the firewall
2) aluminum blocks suck (i boosted my civic, fun....yes, swapping in the new motor after getting boost happy...fun....NO)
3) third point, miatas seem to be boost friendly, welcome, from a fellow honda head =]

18psi

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GTFO.
those engines flow a **** ton more than anything a miata offers and make insane power on relatively low boost.

with each post you're sounding more and more ******* stupid.

dustinb

rofl, you know nothing about Honda's. They make so much more power then we can ever imagine with turbo. Two of my friends have 500whp 99 civic hatchbacks.

marcmannugget

built i presume>? ive gone through 3 d16y8's on 10 pounds stock (injectors and what not) with a chrome chipped ecu

dustinb

That's your problem. Chrome. Go Hondata and get a proper tune. Another buddy of mine has a early civic that he put a d16 in. 350whp on stock internals.

marcmannugget

fyi also depends what kinda honda motor said builder is using, b series are usually the way to go if its in budget, d16's are safe for low boost (for so long), and so far i havent had problems with k20's dying from boost, so please dont call me stupid, i have experimented with most of these motors short of the si b16 and the gsr b18

marcmannugget

the d16 was put together after finishing an rsx boosted with hondata, the limits were far less on the d series compared to the k.....at least imo..

18psi

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k20's are phenomenal for boost. b series are great too. stock d series will last for quite a bit at low boost and >200whp. built d series can handle big power and despite being a single cammer can still flow enough to get away with a large turbo.
They have one major flaw: front wheel drive.
Now I'm not wasting my posts trying to explain **** to you, since you're obviously a "second hand knowledge" warrior spewing vague *** stupid ******* noob info in every post trying to come off smart. Stick to reading and searching. Don't start giving "advice" about **** you don't know less than a month after joining. (the last part is more regarding the posts you made today in other threads).
Just stfu.
you are NOT the forum honda expert.

Si Speed 317

I know I'm new here so I don't want to disobey forum rules or be rude, but you have no clue what you're talking about. The 06+ Si's K20z3 motor handles boost even better than the RSX-S motors, and the RSX-S motors handle boost VERY well. Stock k20 blocks hold up to 600hp, without a problem. Look over on 8thcivic.com, there are guys running GT3076R (my setup) hitting 450+whp on only 10psi. It's ALL about the tune, and the fact that those motors are pretty much the best 4 cylinder motor help as well, lol.

As for the d-series motors, they have low compression, as do b series motors. ~9.0:1 which is IDEAL for boosting. You need to do some serious research before you talk about things if you don't know about them.
You did your research You're 100% right
Exactly! Thank you
^ Hondata is, by FAR, the best tuning solution. Period. Second to none. I have FlashPro on my Si (which is K-Pro for the RSX guys) and I can tune my entire car from my laptop with phenominal ease. I <3 Hondata
Again, 100% correct. And just so you know, the Hondata Boost Control Solenoid (MAC boost control solenoid) helps the FWD thing like you wouldn't believe

Full_Tilt_Boogie

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omg you retard, everybody knows that the y8 is a POS engine. You have to moddify the crank and oiling system to keep those things from spinning bearings.
Not to mention a stock D series has very weak internals, that why everybody builds them with vitaras and aftermarket rods.

There is nothing wrong with crome (Its crome not chrome), its better than megasquirt, and better than hondata.

Also, 10 psi on stock injectors... Im going to assume it was a t3/t4 (which is very common), in which case WTF. You would need at least 440cc injectors at that power level, not to mention the fact that youre beyond what a stock D can make reliably.

WonTon

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for you turbo hot-parts i recommend Absurdflow or ARTech! both make amazing products, fairly priced and both have outstanding track records.....

18psi

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I had 4 RSX-S and went through numerous n/a sc and turbo setups. Its not research. I know 1st hand
I used to be a honda ***** years ago.
Then a subaru ***** (had 3 of those)

Now a miata *****

marcmannugget

ok before this gets out of hand, and i get one of my only miata boost sources banned from my reach ill come out and apologize, im not trying to sound like a honda expert, or a douche bag, im just giving you what i messed up on (my mistakes) take it or leave it. i do not believe i am by far the best honda boost expert, nor will i ever be. let me reiterate, im here for boost research on a 91 miata, and for **** sake dudes, we are arguing about hondas on a turbo miata forum, why the animosity.......18 psi, full tilt, you guys seem to know what youre doing, im sorry for sharing my horrible experiences with the new guy, i just hope he doesnt cheap out on boosting like i did and **** up engines...but ill add the rsx-s is still running properly today, because i took no shortcuts with my rev hard kit or the k-pro, unlike my old dd civic which was a hmt frankenstein piece of ****.

18psi

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Fair enough. Just for the record, like I've mentioned in the other thread: I'm not attacking you personally, but when I hit "new posts" button and the latest 5 are all you and all giving "advice" to people that makes no sense, I get a bit irritated.


Glad to hear your RSX is holding up.
If they weren't FWD I'd still have one today. They are great cars overall

chicksdigmiatas

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k20 miata?

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lol if only that were possible.
that would be so complicated it would make the f20c swap seem like a walk in the park

lordrigamus

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You dirty ****!