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Old 04-26-2012, 09:43 PM   #1
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Default Has anyone seen this turbo kit before?

I have no intention buying it for multiple reasons, but I want to hear you guys tear it apart so I have a better understanding when looking at things. Thanks for the help guys!

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Old 04-27-2012, 10:44 AM   #2
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If you know it's ****, and we've beat the topic more than a 15yr old with unlimited ****...what is the point of this thread?
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:25 PM   #3
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Because when I do buy a turbo kit I want to know what to look for. Also a friend of mine considered buying it so I want the people who have been turbocharging cars to chime in. I don't want to sound like a complete idiot and lead a friend in the wrong direction.

To me it looks bad because its missing a oil line, the turbo doesn't look like a Garret T28 (No branding, I could be wrong) What type of BOV, no fuel management and what looks to be a shitty manifold. But I don't know these things for sure and want opinions.

Is that a good enough reason? (not trying to be sarcastic or a smartass, really want to know)
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it's all chinese parts. the end.


if you want a good base kit, look up Flyin' miata and/or Bell Engineering.
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Basically what Brain said: you want proven/trusted go with begi/fm or wait for trackspeed to test and "prove" theirs. done
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:54 PM   #6
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When it comes to kits for miatas, you get what you pay for. There are only a handful of reputable kits out there and they might seem pricy but you get the r&d to back them up. There is no cheap way to do it. Sure you can do it for less than FM or BEGi, but you really need to do your homework first...and you'll still end up buying party's from those reputable companies.
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Because when I do buy a turbo kit I want to know what to look for.
In the context of a turbo system for a Miata, if you wish to purchase a complete, turnkey kit that uses quality hardware, provides useful documentation, and is essentially ready-to-run out of the box, then there are basically two determining factors to look for:

1: The presence of the word "Garrett" cast into the compressor housing of the turbocharger, and

2: The name "Bell" or "FM" on the outside of the box it comes in.

I'm not being facetious here. These are really the only two vendors within the Miata community which have demonstrated the ability to assemble a complete turbo system using manifolds which won't self-destruct, piping that fits together as though it were intended to actually go into a car, and all of the little accessory bits needed to actually make it run.

While there are certainly varying levels of completeness and quality amongst the turbocharger kits which you will find advertised both by eBay vendors and by large "all-import" resellers such as the one you linked to, the degree to which all of them fall short of the two aforementioned vendors makes such observations about as meaningful as pointing out that some venereal diseases are less uncomfortable than others. (eg: gonorrhea is not as bad as herpes, but neither one is as nice as cake.)

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eg: gonorrhea is not as bad as herpes, but neither one is as nice as an ice-cream cone.)
This is the best thing I have heard all week. Thanks guys
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So really any time any other noob asks a question about ebay turbo kits from now on, we'll just ask them 1 question:

Do you want gonorrhea, herpes, or ice cream?
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Sound idea
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:30 PM   #11
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I'd like to propose a revision, actually. I think that "Gonorrhea, herpes, or cake?" is a better choice.
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The eBay turbo is a lie!
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what's that supossed to mean. my "ebay" turbo is killer.
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ebay turbo should not be confused with ebay turbo KIT
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Fine.

The quality ebay turbo kit is a lie.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:07 PM   #16
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what's that supossed to mean.
Seriously?

(Smartass response follows)

Well, I believe that he's making an inference to the popular videogame Portal, in which a malevolent AI named GlaDOS with a somewhat inadequate understanding of human psychology uses the promise of cake (as a reward) to motivate captive human test subject to perform hazardous and potentially lethal experiments. Within the in-game universe, the player uncovers a number of clues left by an unseen (and presumably deceased) former test subject, some of which consist entirely of the words "The cake is a lie" scrawled upon the walls in rough handwriting, along with a deal of other writing which appears to indicate a deranged state on the part of its author.



The player is (presumably) meant to interpret this as indicating that her predecessor has discovered that the promise of cake is an empty one, and that GlaDOS is merely attempting to deceive the player. This appears to be confirmed halfway through the game, when the player reaches the end of the final test chamber, and is rewarded with fiery death rather than cake.

After having escaped from fiery death, and confronted GlaDOS, the actual conclusion of the game presents a surprise ending in which the player discovers that a cake does in fact exist within the building in which she has been held prisoner, albeit in an area which is not directly accessible to the player. It is never specifically made clear why the cake is present, or whether GlaDOS possessed either the means or the intent to deliver the cake to the player.



The game ends as a robotic arm is lowered from the ceiling which snuffs out the single candle atop the cake, plunging the room into darkness and revealing the end credits.





The phrase "The Cake is a Lie" and related illustrations subsequently exploded into a popular internet meme which continues to this day, spawning T-*****, videogame crossover parodies, actual cakes, and at least one leg tattoo.












Actually, my intent was to reference the stand-up comedy routine "Dress to Kill" by self-described professional transvestite comedian Eddie Izzard, in which he postulates how the Spanish Inquisition might have been different had it been conducted by members of the Anglican Church rather than by Roman Catholics.
I just don't think that's happening. But you can't do that in Church of England, you can't say, "You must have tea and cake with the Vicar, or you die!"
You can't have extreme points of view, you know. The Spanish Inquisition wouldn't have worked with Church of England.

"Talk! Will you talk!"

"But it hurts!"

"Well, loosen it up a bit, will you? Fine..."

‘Cause that's what it would be. "Tea and cake or death?
(...)
"Cake or death?" That's a pretty easy question. Anyone could answer that.

"Cake or death?"

"Eh, cake please."

"Very well! Give him cake!"

"Oh, thanks very much. It's very nice."




Given that "Dress to Kill" was performed nine years prior to the game Portal, we must assume that this monologue was the inspiration for GlaDOS.
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Ask Joe another question.
I dare you.
I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHERF*CKER
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Surprisingly, the phrase "Samuel L Jackson pointing a gun at the cake" did not produce any useful results in Google Images.


Unsurprisingly, the phrase "Rule 34 cake" did.



(This was the least offensive of 56,700 results, many of which involved ponies, by which I came to be aware of the relatively recent adoption of Internet Rule 34-P.)
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Fine.

The quality ebay turbo kit is a lie.
I stand humbly corrected.


Nice dissertation, Joe.
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Joe, you and I both know i get the reference.

i was offended by the absurdity that an ebay turbo is a lie, considering i have and use one to great effect.
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